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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon observed when using a gas duster (difluoroethane) that emits a fizzing noise when placed on a hard surface. Participants explore potential explanations for this behavior, considering aspects of physics and thermodynamics, as well as the mechanics of the device.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the fizzing noise occurs when the can is placed down and stops when lifted, suggesting a counterintuitive interaction between the can's contents and external conditions.
  • Another participant proposes that the hissing sound might originate from condensation trapped under the can's base, with air escaping when the can is set down.
  • A participant confirms that placing the can on its side eliminates the noise, raising questions about the nature of the sound and its relation to condensation.
  • One participant suggests that the countertop's thermal properties may influence the boiling of the gas, potentially contributing to the fizzing sound.
  • Another participant humorously suggests a supernatural explanation for the phenomenon.
  • A separate thread introduces a different gas duster mystery, speculating on mechanical sources of sound related to the device's operation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses regarding the source of the fizzing sound, with no consensus reached on a definitive explanation. Multiple competing views remain regarding the mechanisms at play.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the situation, including factors such as thermal dynamics, mechanical interactions, and the specific behavior of gases under pressure, without resolving the underlying questions.

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Individuals interested in thermodynamics, fluid dynamics, and the behavior of gases in pressurized systems may find this discussion relevant.

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Why does a gas duster "fizz" when put down but stop when held?
While using an ordinary gas duster (difluoroethane) to clean some electronics, I noticed something weird (see linked videos):
  • After spraying the gas duster and placing it on a hard surface e.g. countertop, the can emits a fizzing noise.
  • Picking up the can causes the fizzing to stop.
  • The process is repeatable i.e. putting the can down starts the fizzing again. This occurs even if the can is placed down very gently.
  • The duster can feels cold to touch, but not painfully so. I'd estimate the can surface temperature as between 0 and 10 C.
  • Difluoroethane has a normal boiling point of -25 C, but the can is pressurized so it could be liquid inside.
  • The fizzing sounds similar to a soft drink, suggesting that the contents could be liquid with some gas bubbles inside.
This is counterintuitive. If the difluoroethane is normally a cold liquid, the heat of my hand or motion of lifting it could vaporize some and cause it to bubble. But what I observe is the exact opposite: removing the hand causes fizzing, while holding the can makes the fizzing stop.

What is going on here?

Gas duster video 1
Gas duster video 2
 
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Is it possible that the hissing is not coming from the can per se, but from the condensation trapped under the convex base? Set the can down, trapped air escapes; lift the can up, no trapped air.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Is it possible that the hissing is not coming from the can per se, but from the condensation trapped under the convex base? Set the can down, trapped air escapes; lift the can up, no trapped air.

I tried placing the can on its side instead of vertically and sure enough, the noise went away! But this raises another question... while I have no doubt that water is condensing under the convex base, typically condensing water doesn't make the fizzing/bubbling noise that can be heard in the video. Here's a new video with the can on its side.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ips3kutWC3hCKHFz7
 
PuzzledMonkey said:
... typically condensing water doesn't make the fizzing/bubbling noise that can be heard in the video.
I was thinking in terms of it bubbling through the imperfect seal between the can and the table.
 
This is likely due to the fact that the countertop has a much larger thermal mass and thermal conductivity to air. More heat equals more boiling. Does placing your hand on the bottom also cause the hissing sound?

BoB
 
Obviously Satan is in that can!
 
Here is another gas duster mystery: Where does the hissing sound comes from?



(Sorry, I really had another definition of a 'gas duster' when reading the title. It might not be ordinary, but it uses a lot of gas and a blower is involved! :smile:)
 
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jack action said:
Here is another gas duster mystery: Where does the hissing sound comes from?
Sounds like the Gilmer belt (toothed belt) driving the blower. (or a bearing about to seize!)
 

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