Naming Cycloalkanes Homework: Confused on Answer

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The discussion centers on the correct naming conventions for cycloalkanes, specifically regarding the compound trans-1-isopropyl-4-methylcycloheptane. The confusion arises from the placement of substituents, where the instructor's answer suggests 4-methyl instead of 1-methyl. The consensus is that the methylethyl group, being a chain of three carbon atoms, takes precedence over the methyl group, leading to the correct nomenclature of 1-(1-methylethyl) and 4-methyl. Alphabetical order is crucial in naming, confirming that the instructor's answer aligns with IUPAC naming conventions.

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On the attachment is the answer to one of my questions written next to it as the instructor provided.
But I am confused. I understand the first common naming answer, however the second, shouldn't it be 1 methyl, rather than 4,
and then 4-(1-methylethyl)? Because with 2 substituents you label in alphabetical order. Am I missing some information that would allow me to label it as my instructor did?
Please advise if you can.

Thank you in advance.
 

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cathy said:
shouldnt it be 1 methyl, rather than 4,
and then 4-(1-methylethyl)? Because with 2 substituents you label in alphabetical order.
The methylethyl group is a chain of three carbon atoms, so it has precedence over the methyl with one carbon. Therefore, in terms of numbering, it is 1-(1-methylethyl) and 4-methyl. It is for the same reason that it is the isopropyl that gets numbered 1 (the numbering is independent of how you choose to name the group, isopropyl vs 1-methylethyl).

Note that in the full name, alphabetic order is used:

trans-1-isopropyl-4-methylcycloheptane

trans-4-methyl-1-(1-methyethyl)cycloheptane
 
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