NASA Job: Theoretical Physics & Astrophysicist Research

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of pursuing independent research as a theoretical physicist and astrophysicist while employed by NASA. Participants explore various employment categories within NASA and their implications for conducting research.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether it is possible to balance independent research with a job at NASA, suggesting that it may depend on the type of employment (civil servant, contractor, or research grant recipient).
  • One participant asserts that civil servants and contractors likely do not have the opportunity for independent research, while research grant recipients might have more flexibility.
  • Another participant shares personal experience as a research grant recipient, indicating that while they have contact with civil servants and contractors, much of their time is spent on bureaucratic tasks.
  • There are differing opinions on the nature of work for theoretical physicists and astrophysicists at NASA, with some suggesting that major research projects are often outsourced.
  • Participants discuss the distinction between observational and theoretical astrophysics, with one suggesting that theoretical astrophysics may be more relevant for NASA-related work.
  • Some participants express confidence in their ability to work in both fields, while others express skepticism about the challenges involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the feasibility of conducting independent research while working at NASA. Multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of employment and the associated opportunities for research.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the ability to engage in independent research may vary significantly based on individual circumstances and specific job roles within NASA. There are also references to the bureaucratic nature of some positions, which may limit research opportunities.

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Is it possible to be a theoretical physics and astrophysicist and still do independent research while working for NASA?
 
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If you have the willpower and work ethic to do it all, by all means.
 
lol, a theoretical physicist and astrophysicist while being productive at NASA...lol!

unless you've got the brain of Enrico Fermi, that sounds reallllly tough. then again, I tend to think that I'm a theoretical and an astrophysicist. all i need to do is get a job at NASA.
 
orthovector said:
lol, a theoretical physicist and astrophysicist while being productive at NASA...lol!

unless you've got the brain of Enrico Fermi, that sounds reallllly tough. then again, I tend to think that I'm a theoretical and an astrophysicist. all i need to do is get a job at NASA.

From my studies so far I find that astrophysics isn't al that diffrent from normal physics, I know I could do both, I'm just not sure abought the NASA part.
 
Stratosphere said:
From my studies so far I find that astrophysics isn't al that diffrent from normal physics, I know I could do both, I'm just not sure abought the NASA part.



Why's that?
 
To answer both your first question, and this one:
Stratosphere said:
From my studies so far I find that astrophysics isn't al that diffrent from normal physics, I know I could do both, I'm just not sure abought the NASA part.

Yes, you can work for NASA while being an astrophysicist/theoretical physicist. They employ people from a variety of professions, not just aerospace engineers and astronauts.

Look: http://astrophysics.gsfc.nasa.gov/
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/ask_an_astronomer.html

Plus, if you are an astrophysicist, you can also become an astronaut, because they choose people from various professions, such as biologists, for example.
orthovector said:
lol, a theoretical physicist and astrophysicist while being productive at NASA...lol!

unless you've got the brain of Enrico Fermi, that sounds reallllly tough. then again, I tend to think that I'm a theoretical and an astrophysicist. all i need to do is get a job at NASA.

As far as I know, there are a multitude of people with careers in theoretical physics and astrophysics. They don't all have the brain of Fermi, trust me.

I also want to be a theoretical physicist/astrophysicist, most likely going to work for NASA. I hope my answer helped you. :biggrin:
 
klite said:
To answer both your first question, and this one:


Yes, you can work for NASA while being an astrophysicist/theoretical physicist. They employ people from a variety of professions, not just aerospace engineers and astronauts.

Look: http://astrophysics.gsfc.nasa.gov/
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/ask_an_astronomer.html

Plus, if you are an astrophysicist, you can also become an astronaut, because they choose people from various professions, such as biologists, for example.


As far as I know, there are a multitude of people with careers in theoretical physics and astrophysics. They don't all have the brain of Fermi, trust me.

I also want to be a theoretical physicist/astrophysicist, most likely going to work for NASA. I hope my answer helped you. :biggrin:

Maybe one day I will meet you. :biggrin:
 
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Maybe one day I will meet you fine gentlemen also.
 
Stratosphere said:
Is it possible to be a theoretical physics and astrophysicist and still do independent research while working for NASA?

Having 'worked for' NASA in the past, may I offer the following perspective?

First, there are lots of ways one may 'work for' NASA. Being a civil servant (government employee), a contractor/subcontractor, a research grant recipient, etc.

Civil servant: The answer to your question is 'no'.
Contractor/subcontractor: The answer to your question is likely 'no'.
Research grant recipient: The answer to your question is possibly 'yes'.
 
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Andy Resnick said:
Having 'worked for' NASA in the past, may I offer the following perspective?

First, there are lots of ways one may 'work for' NASA. Being a civil servant (government employee), a contractor/subcontractor, a research grant recipient, etc.

Civil servant: The answer to your question is 'no'.
Contractor/subcontractor: The answer to your question is likely 'no'.
Research grant recipient: The answer to your question is possibly 'yes'.

Andy has the gist of it but he is not completely correct either. I fall into the 3rd category listed above (Research grant recipient) and my grant allows my office to be housed within NASA. So, I am in close contact with civil servants, contractors and other grant recipients.

I have some colleagues and friends who are civil servants (who are also theoretical physicists, as am I) and they spend the vast majority of their time doing either bureaucratic work (paperwork, forms, meetings) or engineering. They do, however, fit in some basic science from time to time when the need arises and they have the time in their schedule to do it. How much of it depends on the person really. Typically, though, any major research project is granted out.
 
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Norman said:
Andy has the gist of it but he is not completely correct either. I fall into the 3rd category listed above (Research grant recipient) and my grant allows my office to be housed within NASA. So, I am in close contact with civil servants, contractors and other grant recipients.

I have some colleagues and friends who are civil servants (who are also theoretical physicists, as am I) and they spend the vast majority of their time doing either bureaucratic work (paperwork, forms, meetings) or engineering. They do, however, fit in some basic science from time to time when the need arises and they have the time in their schedule to do it. How much of it depends on the person really. Typically, though, any major research project is granted out.

So as a theoretical physicist and astrophysicist what would I do working for NASA?
 
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Novel propulsion schemes, exoplanet searches, human spaceflight issues (water management, radiation protection, dust, etc.). Stuff like that.
 
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Youre probably not going to be working on inflationary theory.
 
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Would I need to be an observational astrophysist or a theoreticle astrophysics?
 
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Stratosphere said:
Would I need to be an observational astrophysist or a theoreticle astrophysics?

It depends on what you like.

Observational Astrophysicists: extracts physical information from astronomical observations which can be directly compared with the models, and uses theoretical models to suggest unambiguous observational tests.

Theoretical Astrophysicists: use theoretical models and computer simulations to understand a variety of fundamental astrophysical phenomena such as: the formation and dynamics of planets in the solar system and around other stars, the physics of accretion flows and jets around black holes and neutron stars, the role of supermassive black holes in galaxy formation, the growth of the first stars and galaxy halos, the cosmic microwave background and ionization history of the universe, the nature of dark matter and dark energy, and the properties of the primordial seeds responsible for the growth of structure in the universe. (from the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics).

If you are going for NASA, I'd say choose theoretical astrophysics, it's the one that encompasses more information, and objects that are further out in space. Personally, I like theoretical astrophysics more, but this is your choice.
 

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