NASA TV Live: Phoenix Mars Lander Arrives Today

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The thread discusses the arrival of the Phoenix Mars Lander, including its mission details, live coverage, and personal connections to participants. The conversation spans various aspects of the mission, including technical concerns, emotional responses, and speculative ideas about Mars' environment and potential for life.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the live coverage and personal connections to the mission, highlighting the emotional impact of the event.
  • Concerns are raised about hydrazine contamination from the thrusters and its implications for the mission.
  • Participants discuss the lander's landing accuracy and its proximity to the projected ground zero, with some expressing curiosity about the exact distance.
  • There are questions regarding the lander's ability to survive in polar conditions, particularly regarding battery drainage and potential damage to equipment.
  • Speculation arises about the possibility of capturing images of dust devils and the implications of static electricity on the lander's operations.
  • Some participants debate the choice of landing site, suggesting that a temperate region might have been more suitable for the potential discovery of liquid water.
  • Discussion includes the potential for future missions to explore other regions of Mars, such as the Tharsis region, and the challenges posed by complex terrain.
  • Participants share links to images and resources related to the mission, including a Mars overlay for Google Earth.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of excitement and concern regarding the mission, with no clear consensus on the best landing site or the implications of the lander's position. Multiple competing views on the mission's objectives and outcomes remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about the lander's operational capabilities and the environmental conditions on Mars, which are not fully resolved. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on the mission's significance and potential findings.

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a photo of liquid water on Mars
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/498/wateronmars2gccdw4.jpg
 
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Looks like Phoenix finally died!
Nasa says its Phoenix lander on the surface of Mars has gone silent and is almost certainly dead.

Engineers have not heard from the craft since Sunday 2 November when it made a brief communication with Earth.

Phoenix, which landed on the planet's northern plains in May, had been struggling in the increasing cold and dark of an advancing winter.

The US space agency says it will continue to hail the craft but does not to expect to hear from it again.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7721032.stm
 
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LightbulbSun said:
So they will never be able to get the samples? Or did they get enough data out of it that it can't be rendered a failed mission?

I wouldn't call it a failed mission. The link gokul provides explains that the mission was only scheduled to last for 3 months, but had already run for 5 months.
 
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LightbulbSun said:
So they will never be able to get the samples? Or did they get enough data out of it that it can't be rendered a failed mission?
The samples were analyzed on Mars. The goal was not to retrieve the samples from Mars and send to earth.
 
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Astronuc said:
The samples were analyzed on Mars. The goal was not to retrieve the samples from Mars and send to earth.

So they got enough data out of it?
 
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LightbulbSun said:
So they got enough data out of it?
I'm sure they would have liked to get more.

However - Mars Phoenix Lander Finishes Successful Work on Red Planet - 11.10.08
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/news/phoenix-20081110.html

AFAIK - the rovers are still going.

Dust Storm Cuts Energy Supply of NASA Mars Rover Spirit
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer/news/mer-20081110.html

and Cassini is still sending us breathtaking views of Saturn and its rings and moons.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/main/index.html
 
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