Natural convection cooled enclosure

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the cooling of a transformer housed in an enclosure through natural convection. Participants explore how to quantify the heat leaving the enclosure, considering factors such as the enclosure's area, the transformer's heat output, and the ambient temperature. The focus includes both theoretical and practical approaches to understanding heat transfer in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that at steady state, the heat leaving the enclosure equals the heat generated by the transformer, suggesting a fundamental principle.
  • Another participant inquires about the internal temperature of the enclosure, indicating a need to assess whether natural convection can maintain the transformer's temperature below its rated limit.
  • A suggestion is made to model the situation using Finite Element Analysis (FEA), though it is acknowledged that the problem may be complex for analytical methods.
  • Another participant proposes using Archimedes' principle and Newton's law of heating for a rough estimate, while noting that this approach relies on significant assumptions.
  • One participant comments that estimates might be within an order of magnitude, implying uncertainty in the accuracy of the proposed methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best approach to analyze the heat transfer, with some favoring numerical modeling and others suggesting simpler theoretical methods. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective method to determine the heat leaving the enclosure.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the problem and the reliance on assumptions in proposed methods, particularly regarding the use of simplified principles for estimation.

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I have a transformer in a box that is cooled using natural convection. There are louvered openings on the box to pull cool air in the bottom and let heated air out of the top. How do I determine how much heat is actually leaving the enclosure? Info that I have is the area of the enclosure, the amount of heat that the transformer is putting out, ambient outside air temp. Any suggestions or websites that would get me going?
 
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At steady state the amount of heat going out is the amount of heat generated by the transformer. This is fundamental. Are you perhaps more interested in the actual inside temperatures?
 
Yes, what is the temp inside the enclosure? I am trying to determine if the natural convection through the louvers can pull enough heat out to keep the transformer below its rated operating temp. Any ideas?
 
Is this something you could model using FEA? It seems to me the problem would be a little too complex for an analytical approach.
 
That would be tough to do without some kind of numerical analysis. You could maybe ballpark it with Archimedes' principle and Newton's law of heating but that would be based on some big assumptions.
 
Yea, you might be within an order of magnitude.
 

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