Need a proper mathematical name

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the terminology used to describe the larger area of a circle that is divided by a chord into two unequal parts. Participants explore various naming conventions and seek a proper mathematical term for this area, considering its geometric properties.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the smaller area is commonly referred to as a circular segment and questions if there is an accepted name for the larger area.
  • Another participant suggests that the larger area could also be considered a circular segment, but with a central angle greater than π, proposing the prefix "co-" for complementary objects.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes the risk of confusion with the term "circular segment," citing Wikipedia's definition that specifies the angle must be less than 180 degrees.
  • One participant proposes using angle terminology such as "acute," "obtuse," "straight," and "reflex" to describe the segments based on the defining angle.
  • Another suggestion is to call the larger area a "truncated circle," drawing an analogy to a truncated cone.
  • Some participants express that "larger circular segment" might be sufficiently clear despite the Wikipedia definition.
  • One participant considers the term "gibbous," but expresses concern that it may be too specific and lead to confusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single term for the larger area, with multiple competing suggestions and concerns about clarity and potential confusion remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions and accepted terminology in geometry, as well as the potential for confusion based on existing definitions in sources like Wikipedia.

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Consider a circle with a chordal line dividing the area into two unequal parts. It seems to be accepted practice to call the smaller of these parts a circular segment. Is there a generally accepted name for the larger area?

I've been writing some material where this geometry arises, and I've called it a "flatted circle," but that is inelegant at best! Better names would be much appreciated.

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It is as well a circular segment, only that the angle is ##> \pi##. In mathematics in general complementary objects are often noted with the prefix "co-". This might not be correct in its funktorial point of view, but within geometry alone there is no danger of confusion as e.g. "hyper-" would be. I've found on Wikipedia that the height of a circular segment is also called sagitta, so you could as well define the area as a segment with sagitta ##> R##.

Another idea is to borrow from the specifications of angles and call it "reflex(ed) segment".
 
Thanks for the reply fresh_42. My concern with calling this area a circular segment is the risk of confusion. The "all-knowing Wikipedia" says this:

"In geometry, a circular segment (symbol: ⌓) is a region of a circle which is "cut off" from the rest of the circle by a secant or a chord. More formally, a circular segment is a region of two-dimensional space that is bounded by an arc (of less than 180°) of a circle and by the chord connecting the endpoints of the arc."

As you can see, the Wiki article explicitly states that the central angle is less than 180 degrees. Maybe someone else has another option?
 
From Wikipedia:
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subtitled with: "The blue body is a sphere segment; the pink rest body too" and on the English version: "An example of a spherical cap in blue (and another in red.)" So what's right for the ball cannot be false all of a sudden for the circle.

I would probably use the language of angles: acute, obtuse, straight, reflex. It is what the defining angle is, and thus can be extended to the segments with some reason.
 

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If you slice off a bit of a cone you have a truncated cone. So how about 'truncated circle'?

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Regardless of what Wikipedia says, I think that "larger circular segment" would be clear enough.
 
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Thanks to all who responded. This helps, and is much appreciated.
 
I was thinking of gibbous. But I suspect is too well-defined to not lead to confusion.
  • having the observable illuminated part greater than a semicircle and less than a circle
 

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