Need Help Co-60 Shielding Mcnp Activity Input

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around how to include the activity of a Co-60 source in MCNP code for a simulation involving a cylindrical cask and concrete shielding. Participants explore the implications of using different units for activity and seek clarity on how to implement this in the MCNP material card.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that activity is a measure of disintegrations per unit time, with Becquerel being a straightforward unit (1 Bq = 1 disintegration/second), while Curies represent a larger scale (3.7E10 disintegrations/second).
  • There is uncertainty about whether the activity needs to be included as input or if the gamma spectrum from decay suffices.
  • One participant expresses a need for specific guidance on how to add the activity to the MCNP code, particularly in the material card.
  • Another participant points out that the MCNP manual does not specify how to input source activity, raising questions about the documentation.
  • A later reply mentions that if activity is required, the half-life of Co-60 would also be necessary, and emphasizes that generating enough decays to achieve the desired result may be more important than specifying activity directly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the activity needs to be included in the input or if the gamma spectrum is sufficient. Multiple competing views remain regarding the necessity and implementation of source activity in MCNP simulations.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include a lack of clarity on the specific requirements for inputting source activity in MCNP and the potential dependence on the definitions of activity and decay spectrum.

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Greeting,

I am trying to figure out how can I include the activity of a Co-60 source in MCNP code.
I have the following problem Co-60 source in a cylinder surrounded by concrete. I just need to know how to include the source activity and whether it should be in Bq or Ci.

Thank you in advance
 
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I'm not exactly sure how to answer your question for I know little how Monte Carlo calcs are actually carried out but activity is a measure of disintegrations per unit time the Becquerel being the most transparent as 1 Bq = 1 dist/sec. where as ` Curies is 3.7E10 dps. The activity represents the initial strength of the flux of photons whose history is to be developed. So chose an activity that gives enough photons.that will participate in your scenario..
 
gleem said:
I'm not exactly sure how to answer your question for I know little how Monte Carlo calcs are actually carried out but activity is a measure of disintegrations per unit time the Becquerel being the most transparent as 1 Bq = 1 dist/sec. where as ` Curies is 3.7E10 dps. The activity represents the initial strength of the flux of photons whose history is to be developed. So chose an activity that gives enough photons.that will participate in your scenario..
Thank you for your reply. I'm trying to figure out where and how to add it to my code more specifically how to add it to the material card
If you have an example of the material section with activity identified, please share. Thank you.
 
gleem said:
I'm not exactly sure how to answer your question for I know little how Monte Carlo calcs are actually carried out
It sound like you are asking a question that should be answered in the documentation.
 
gleem said:
It sound like you are asking a question that should be answered in the documentation.
What documentation, are you referring to the manual?
Well, the manual doesn't specify how to input a source activity.

Thanks for your help.
 
Are you sure you need the activity as input and not just the spectrum of gammas from a given decay?
 
gleem said:
Are you sure you need the activity as input and not just the spectrum of gammas from a given decay?
Ok, so here is what I m trying to simulate, from left to right, Co-60 with an activity of 1 Ci in a cylindrical cask, concrete wall 2 ft away from the source, then detector. I need to find the dose behind the concrete wall using mcnp. I am new to MCNP and I m trying to learn it but got stuck on the activity portion.
 
Check out this primer on MCNP http://cmpwg.ans.org/mcnp/primer.pdf

If you needed the activity you would also need the half -life. In the calculation you generate a radiation emission (decay) and follow its history to a specific location AFAIK. You continue to generate these emissions until you achieve a specified precision in the specified units of interest. You do not need to specify activity since you only need to generate enough decays to get a result that you want. From the result you know the number of disintegrations that produced that result from which you determine the activity. You can then scale the activity to determine the effect for that activity.
 
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