Need help finding how many molecules fill 1 cubic cm....

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The discussion revolves around calculating the number of oleic acid molecules that would fill one cubic centimeter, assuming the molecules are cube-shaped and that a layer of oleic acid is one molecule thick. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and homework-related inquiries.

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  • One participant presents the problem of determining how many oleic acid molecules fill one cubic centimeter, providing initial calculations for volume and area.
  • Another participant suggests that knowing the thickness allows for calculating the volume of one molecule and subsequently the number of molecules in one cubic centimeter.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the calculations and acknowledges overthinking the problem.
  • One participant points out a mathematical error regarding the volume calculation of oleic acid, questioning the accuracy of the initial volume stated.
  • Another participant confirms that molecules are on the scale of nanometers, which may impact the calculations.
  • A later reply admits to misunderstanding the percentage calculation, realizing that 0.5% was misinterpreted.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the calculations, with some identifying errors and others clarifying assumptions. There is no consensus on the correct approach or final answer.

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Limitations include potential misunderstandings of percentage calculations, assumptions about molecular shape, and the scale of molecules affecting volume calculations.

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Homework Statement


The question I'm working on is: If a layer of oleic acid is considered to be one molecule thick and the molecules are assumed to be essentially cubes, how many molecules would fill one cubic centimeter?

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I've found the volume and area of the acid so that will give me the thickness:

0.5% oleic acid takes up 0.01 cubic centimetres. So volume of the acid is 0.005 cm3.

the area of the acid came out to 95cm2.

the thickness is then : 0.005/95 = 5.27 * 10^-5.

So if the thickness of oleic acid is found, do I just have to cube it then multiply by 100 to find out how many molecules in 1 cubic centimetre? Since oleic acid takes up 1/100 of a cubic centimetre and the molecules are assumed to be cubes...I don't know I'm lost here...
 
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Krishna P said:
the thickness is then : 0.005/95 = 5.27 * 10^-5.
If you have the thickness, and you were told to assume the layer is 1 molecule thick and molecules are cubes...then you should be able to find the volume of 1 molecule.
Your thickness is in cm, right? So 1cm^3 / (volume of 1 molecule) = # of molecules in 1 cm^3.
 
Yea that makes sense, man I was thinking too hard about that one lol
 
Krishna P said:
0.5% oleic acid takes up 0.01 cubic centimetres. So volume of the acid is 0.005 cm3.

Something is wrong. 0.5% of 0.01 is not 0.005.
 
Good catch, Borek.
Also, a quick Google search confirms that molecules are on the scale of nanometers, 10^(-9)m, or 10^(-7)cm.
 
wow, no wonder my calculations were off, I kept thinking 0.5% was 0.5 ...
 

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