Calculate the surface area of 1 g of TiO2 powder

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the surface area of 1 g of TiO2 powder, specifically focusing on particles assumed to be spherical with a diameter of 100 micrometers. Participants also explore estimating the percentage of TiO2 molecules at the surface of the particles relative to the total number of molecules within the volume of the particles. The conversation includes elements of homework-related problem-solving and mathematical reasoning.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the surface area of a single particle using the formula for the surface area of a sphere, resulting in a value of 31415.9 nm², and then attempts to scale this to 1 g of powder.
  • Another participant points out that the surface area calculation is correct but emphasizes the need to determine the mass of a single particle to find the total number of particles in 1 g of TiO2.
  • There is a discussion about the correct interpretation of the diameter of the particles, with one participant noting a discrepancy between the stated diameter of 100 μm and the calculations that seem to use 100 nm.
  • Participants calculate the mass of a single particle using its volume and the density of TiO2, arriving at a mass of approximately 2.214 × 10^-6 g per particle.
  • One participant suggests that the number of particles needed to make up 1 g can be calculated by dividing 1 g by the mass of a single particle.
  • There is uncertainty expressed regarding the calculation of the number of TiO2 molecules at the surface of the particles, with suggestions to treat the surface layer as a spherical shell and calculate its mass and number of molecules separately.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to calculate the surface area and the mass of individual particles, but there remains some uncertainty regarding the correct interpretation of the particle size and the calculations related to the surface molecules. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the final calculations for part 2.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the particle size and the interpretation of the thickness of the surface layer. The calculations depend on the correct understanding of the diameter of the particles and the density of TiO2, which are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the surface area of 1g of powder with a size of 100micrometer. Assume the particles are spherical. Then estimate the percentage of TiO2 molecules at the surface of the particle (relative to the total number of TiO2 molecules in the volume of the particle) for the same size. Assume the thickness of surface TiO2 is the diameter of O-2 (.3nm)

Known:
1g of TiO2 powder
Diameter = 100nm

FromWiki:
Density: 4.23 g/cc
Molar Mass: 77.9g


Homework Equations


Surface Area = Pi*D2
Volume = Pi*D3/6


The Attempt at a Solution



Surface Area of 1 particle = Pi*(100)^2 = 31415.9 nm^2
Surface Area of 1g = 31415.9 * 1/77.9 * 6.022*10^23 atoms = 1.89*10^28 nm^2

Part 2


Volume @ surface = Pi*D^2*thickness = 9424.78 nm^3
Mass = Density*Volume = 9424.78 * 4.23 *10^-21 g/nm^3 = 3.98*10^-17 g powder on surface thickness

3.98*10^-17/77.98*6.022*10^23 = 307871 atoms on surface?

What i think is wrong: Part 1, not sure how to take in account # of units of TiO2 are in 1g, Part 2 i just don't know.
 
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So let me see if I've got this straight. You've got a bunch of TiO2 powder that has a total mass of 1 g. This powder consists of individual spherical particles, each of which has a diameter of 100 μm. Is that right so far?

If so, then I would say that the total surface area would just equal the sum of the surface areas of all of the individual particles. So, the first thing you need to figure out the mass of a single particle. You can get this from its volume, and the density of TiO2. Once you have the mass of a single particle, you can figure out how many particles are needed to get a total mass of 1 g.

The problem with your solution to part 1 is that the surface area of a sphere is not given by πD². EDIT: No, sorry. That equation is fine. I am used to thinking of things in terms of radius rather than diameter.

The other problem seems to be that you tried to figure out the number of particles by figuring out what fraction of a mole corresponds to 1 g. That doesn't work, because that calculation gives you the total number of TiO2 molecules present. But that's not the number of spherical particles in the powder. Each particle is a sphere consisting of MANY TiO2 molecules.
 
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So let me see if I've got this straight. You've got a bunch of TiO2 powder that has a total mass of 1 g. This powder consists of individual spherical particles, each of which has a diameter of 100 μm. Is that right so far?
Yes

If so, then I would say that the total surface area would just equal the sum of the surface areas of all of the individual particles. So, the first thing you need to figure out the mass of a single particle. You can get this from its volume, and the density of TiO2. Once you have the mass of a single particle, you can figure out how many particles are needed to get a total mass of 1 g.

Mass = Volume * Density = (Pi*(100*10^-7 cm)^3)/6 * 4.23 g/cm^3
mass 1 particle= 2.214 * 10^-15 g
mass 1 g = 2.214 * 10^-15 / 79
so 1.68 *10^7 particles to get 1g mass?
 
kpx001 said:
Mass = Volume * Density = (Pi*(100*10^-7 cm)^3)/6 * 4.23 g/cm^3

This looks good, except that in your problem statement, it says that the diameter of a particle is 100 μm, not 100 nm.

kpx001 said:
mass 1 g = 2.214 * 10^-15 / 79

This step doesn't make sense. If I have "x" grams per particle, then how many particles are required to make a total of 1 gram?

Example: If each particle has a mass of 0.1 g (1/10 of a gram per particle), then the number of particles in a 1 gram sample is 10 particles:

(1 gram) / (1/10 grams/particle) = (1 gram)*(10/1 particles/gram) = 10 particles.

The molar mass doesn't come into this at all.
 
Mass = Volume * Density = (Pi*(100*10^-4 cm)^3)/6 * 4.23 g/cm^3 = 2.214 * 10^-6 g per particle
1g / 2.214 *10^-6 g / particle = 451671 particles in 1 gram that are 100 micrometers.
SA = pi*D^2 = pi*(100*10^-6 m)^2 * 451671 = .01419 m^2 is the SA of 1gram ?

still a bit iffy about part 2 if all this is correct so far.
 
kpx001 said:
Mass = Volume * Density = (Pi*(100*10^-4 cm)^3)/6 * 4.23 g/cm^3 = 2.214 * 10^-6 g per particle
1g / 2.214 *10^-6 g / particle = 451671 particles in 1 gram that are 100 micrometers.
SA = pi*D^2 = pi*(100*10^-6 m)^2 * 451671 = .01419 m^2 is the SA of 1gram ?

still a bit iffy about part 2 if all this is correct so far.

This all looks good to me. As for part 2...

kpx001 said:
Assume the thickness of surface TiO2 is the diameter of O-2 (.3nm)

I have no idea what this O-2 business is, but it seems to me like you are supposed to consider the surface layer of molecules on a particle to be a sphereical shell of thickness 0.3 nm. Therefore, it seems like you have to figure out how many molecules are in that shell, and divide by the number of molecules in the entire sphere.

One way to do this would be to figure out the mass of the shell by figuring out its volume, and then using the density to find the mass. Once you know the mass, you can combine that with your knowledge of the molar mass to figure out how many molecules the shell has. Apply the same procedure to the particle as a whole (easier since you already know its mass). Et voila!

EDIT: It sort of seems like you were on track and doing that in the first place...so, follow it through
 

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