Need help finding potential energy formula

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The discussion revolves around finding the potential energy formula related to a force function, specifically addressing issues with integration and the correct input format for a computational tool.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the integration of force to find potential energy, with some questioning the correctness of their results and the implications of sign changes. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between force and potential energy, as well as the correct form of the potential energy function.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the relationship between force and potential energy. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consult textbooks for clarification, and there is a recognition of potential issues with input formats in computational tools.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention constraints related to the input format for fractions in a program, as well as the need for a review of the fundamental concepts linking force and potential energy.

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I took the integral of the equation but its wrong, the program does not have a fraction input to put 1/4 properly. I ended up with -x^-1/4(x^4).
For part b I plugged in 4.5 and turned the number positive to get the answer.
Did I do something wrong for part a?
 

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That you had to turn the number positive should ring a bell.
 
If I plugged in 4.5 into the antiderivative then it would be -122 and that's not correct
 
What is the relationship between F and U?
 
F=U/x
 
You need a review on that.
 
force is the derivative of potential energy which means the antiderivative of force is potential energy
 
That's not exactly correct. Why do you think you had to massage the sign to make the ends meet?
 
is it because U(x)=0
 
  • #10
Stop guessing. Get your textbook, and find out how potential energy and force are related.
 
  • #11
F=-dU/dx
but when I put in x^2+1/4x^4 or -(-x^2-1/4^4) it is still wrong
 
  • #12
For F(x) = -2x - x^3, U(x) = x^2 + (x^4)/4 is correct. I do not know why it is not accepted. Perhaps there is some particular way you should enter it.
 
  • #13
when I input that it says ''this is not a definite integral''
 

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