Need help in understanding phase angle/difference in A level physics.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding phase angles and phase differences in the context of wave graphs, specifically for A level physics. Participants explore how to represent phase differences graphically and clarify concepts related to wave displacement over time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in applying the concept of phase angles in practical questions and seeks a simple explanation for drawing phase differences on a graph.
  • Another participant explains that a phase of 60 degrees corresponds to a shift of π/3 radians or 1/6 of a wavelength, suggesting that this can be visualized as a translation of the wave graph.
  • The same participant notes that if the wavelength is 3 units, the graph would shift by 0.5 units to the left, indicating that T2 lags behind T1.
  • A participant appreciates the explanation of translation in relation to phase shifts, indicating that this perspective was previously unclear to them.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the concept of phase shifts and their graphical representation, but the initial poster still expresses uncertainty about applying these ideas to specific questions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the understanding of sine graphs and radians, as well as the specific context of A level physics questions. There is no resolution on the best method for drawing phase differences, as the initial poster continues to seek clarity.

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I understand what a phase angle/difference is, but when it comes to applying them in questions (from past papers) my mind draws a blank. Can anyone here in simple terms, explain how can I draw let's say a phase angle difference 'precisely' of a wave in a graph?

Additional details : I am in AS level right now, so please go easy on any advanced mathematics. And just as a heads up: We have just learned a sine graph in math as well as radians( so I know a whole wavelength is 2∏.)
 
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mutineer123 said:
I understand what a phase angle/difference is, but when it comes to applying them in questions (from past papers) my mind draws a blank. Can anyone here in simple terms, explain how can I draw let's say a phase angle difference 'precisely' of a wave in a graph?

Additional details : I am in AS level right now, so please go easy on any advanced mathematics. And just as a heads up: We have just learned a sine graph in math as well as radians( so I know a whole wavelength is 2∏.)

I Just came across a question, which I think will help explain my doubt better

http://www.xtremepapers.com/CIE/International%20A%20And%20AS%20Level/9702%20-%20Physics/9702_w02_qp_2.pdf

here in question 5 it says " draw the variation with time t of the displacement x of the point in wave T2" So see, while I know phase angle of 60° means T2 lags behind T1 by 60( less than ∏/2 or 90°), I have no idea how to draw it.
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The phase of a transverse wave is how far it has been translated or shifted. Think back to algebra when we translated graphs of lines by adding and subtracting numbers.

In this case, a phase of 60 degrees results in a shift of ∏/3 radians or 1/6 of a wavelength, being that one wavelength = 2∏ = 360 degrees. If the wavelength of this graph is 3 units then it will be shifted by .5 units to the left (T2 drags behind T1)
 
elliott said:
The phase of a transverse wave is how far it has been translated or shifted. Think back to algebra when we translated graphs of lines by adding and subtracting numbers.

In this case, a phase of 60 degrees results in a shift of ∏/3 radians or 1/6 of a wavelength, being that one wavelength = 2∏ = 360 degrees. If the wavelength of this graph is 3 units then it will be shifted by .5 units to the left (T2 drags behind T1)

Thank you elliott, no one really explained it before with translation..it was very helpful :)
 

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