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The discussion revolves around two mensuration questions posed by a high-school student seeking assistance. Participants engage in exploring the methods for calculating areas of geometric shapes, specifically a parallelogram and a trapezium, while sharing their reasoning and challenges faced in solving the problems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the area of the parallelogram is calculated as 10 x 8 = 80 cm², splitting it into two triangles, each with an area of 40 cm².
  • Another participant questions the correctness of the area calculation and proposes an alternative method for finding the shortest distance in Question 11, using trigonometric functions.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in finding the height (h) for the trapezium area calculation, considering the use of Pythagoras' theorem but encountering further issues.
  • Some participants provide links to external resources for additional assistance with trapezium calculations.
  • There is a mention of a discrepancy in the calculated distance, with one participant asserting that the correct answer is 5.33 cm instead of 5.5 cm, while acknowledging the possibility of error.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the correct methods or answers for the mensuration problems. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the calculations and approaches discussed.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific calculations and methods without fully resolving the mathematical steps or assumptions involved in their reasoning.

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Hi, I'm a high-school student and I am here for some help on these two questions on Mensuration. I have the answers, which are in the attached file below if you would like a reference. Would appreciate if u could share me your workings. Thank you! :)

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In terms of getting useful replies, it would probably be best if you showed us where in the two problems you are having difficulty and how we can help. If you need to refer directly to the math in either of the two problems, please be quote it directly in your post. (clicking on the .pdf link doesn't open the .pdf on my system - Ubuntu LTS 20.10).

*** edit: the image containing the two problems has been included in the OP.
 
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crystal_h said:
Hi, I'm a high-school student and I am here for some help on these two questions on Mensuration. I have the answers, which are in the attached file below if you would like a reference. Would appreciate if u could share me your workings. Thank you! :)
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Please show us what you have tried and exactly where you are stuck.

We can't help you if we don't where you are stuck.
 
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Area of parallelogram: 10 x 8=80cm^2
As you can see I split the parallelogram into two triangles.
So, each triangle has an area of 40cm^2.
Area of triangle: 1/2 x b x h=40
Bh=20
H=20/15
=1.33
And nope, my answer's not correct.

For Question 12:
I know the formula of finding the area of the trapezium is (a+b)/2(h). The problem is, I am unable to find h. As I thought, h could be found by using Pythagoras' theorem. But I have another problem.
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Please help me! Thank you.
 
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crystal_h said:
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Area of parallelogram: 10 x 8=80cm^2
As you can see I split the parallelogram into two triangles.
So, each triangle has an area of 40cm^2.
Area of triangle: 1/2 x b x h=40
Bh=20
H=20/15
=1.33
And nope, my answer's not correct.
Unless I've had one too many, I'd say an accurate diagram for Question 11 lies below and the shortest distance from A to DB is more likely to be 10*sin(arcsin(8/15))=5.333... as opposed to the 5.5 cm answer that you quoted. I could of course be wrong. At any rate, someone should come along shortly to agree or disagree with my beer inspired reckoning.
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your sketch of parallelogram ABCD is incorrect ... should look like this

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jonah said:
Beer soaked opinion follows.

Unless I've had one too many, I'd say an accurate diagram for Question 11 lies below and the shortest distance from A to DB is more likely to be 10*sin(arcsin(8/15))=5.333... as opposed to the 5.5 cm answer that you quoted. I could of course be wrong. At any rate, someone should come along shortly to agree or disagree with my beer inspired reckoning.
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Just checked the answer given, it is actually 5.33! Thank you so much! This really helped me a lot. And thank you once again for your time and effort :)
 

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