Need help regarding transition dipole moment

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the transition dipole moment for hydrogen, specifically focusing on the expression \(\vec{d}(v)=\), where \(v\) represents a free state and \(0\) denotes the 1s wave function. Participants are exploring the mathematical integration involved in deriving this expression.

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  • One participant is attempting to derive the transition dipole moment and presents their integration steps, expressing a discrepancy between their result and the expected expression.
  • Another participant suggests correcting the expression for the plane wave part to include the dot product, indicating that the integration requires angular considerations.
  • A different participant expresses difficulty with the integration due to the complexity introduced by the plane wave and seeks recommendations for literature on dipole moments.
  • Another participant clarifies that the dot product can be expressed as \({\bf p\cdot r}=pr\cos(\theta)\), which simplifies the angular integration.

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The discussion includes multiple competing views regarding the integration process and the correct formulation of the transition dipole moment. There is no consensus on the correct approach or resolution of the discrepancies in the calculations presented.

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Participants have noted potential issues with the integration steps and the need for angular integration, but specific assumptions or definitions that may affect the calculations remain unresolved.

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Individuals interested in quantum mechanics, particularly those studying transition dipole moments and related mathematical techniques in atomic physics.

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Hi, I have been trying to get the expression for the transition dipole moment of hydrogen but I am not able to get the expression. Hope someone can help me with that.

I want to evaluate [itex]\vec{d}(v)=<v|\hat{r}|0>[/itex] where v is the free state and 0 is the 1s wave function for hydrogen.

[itex]\vec{d}(v)=\int dτ\frac{\alpha^{3/4}}{\pi^{1/2}}exp(-\sqrt{\alpha}r)(-ih\frac{d}{dp})exp(-ipr)[/itex]

After integration by parts i got [itex]\frac{\alpha^{3/4}}{\pi^{1/2}}\left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{\alpha}+ip}\right)^{2}[/itex]

However, it should be [itex]\vec{d}(v)=i\left(\frac{2^{7/2}}{\pi}\alpha^{5/4}\right)\frac{p}{\left( p^2+\alpha\right)^3}[/itex].

Can someone point out where I went wrong?
 
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exp(-ipr)should be [itex]exp(-i{\bf p\cdot r})[/itex],
and [itex]-i\hbar\partial_p[/itex] can just be [itex]{\bf r}[/itex].
Then you need angular integration.
 
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Actually I am having trouble doing the integration due to the plane wave part since there is a dot product over there. I have been looking up the meaning of dipole moment and transition dipole moment but can't find much information. Is there any recommended books to read up on this? Thanks!
 
[itex]{\bf p\cdot r}=pr\cos(\theta)[/itex]. Then the angular integration is easy.
 
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