Need help with a question involving heat engines, the carnot cycle and entropy.

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The discussion revolves around concepts related to heat engines, specifically the Carnot cycle and entropy. Participants are exploring various aspects of efficiency and work in thermodynamic processes.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the control of temperature in heat reservoirs and its impact on efficiency. There are attempts to derive expressions for efficiency based on temperature changes in the reservoirs. Questions are raised about specific conditions and calculations related to the coefficient of performance and work required in cooling processes.

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Some participants have provided mathematical expressions and reasoning related to efficiency and work. There is an ongoing search for insights into specific parts of the problem, particularly part e), indicating a collaborative effort to explore different angles of the topic.

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Participants mention the need for clarification on specific parts of the problem, indicating potential gaps in information or understanding. The discussion reflects the complexity of thermodynamic principles and their applications in practical scenarios.

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a) I imagine it is easier to control the temperature of the hot reservoir because you could use a constant heat source e.g. bunsen burner.

c) melting/freezing water.

d) Entropy of the environment increases and the entropy of the universe always increases.

Any help with b) or e) would be massively appreciated
 
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[tex]\eta=\frac{W}{Q_{in}}=1-\frac{|Q_{out}|}{Q_{in}}=1-\frac{T_{min}}{T_{max}}[/tex]

If you raise the temp of hot reservoir by [tex]\Delta T[/tex] you'll have: [tex]T_{max}'=T_{max}+\Delta T[/tex], and if you lower the cold reservoir by the same amount you'll have:
[tex]T_{min}'=T_{min}-\Delta T[/tex].
So the new efficiencies will be:
[tex]\eta_1=1-\frac{T_{min}}{T_{max}'}=\frac{T_{max}-T_{min}+\Delta T}{T_{max}+\Delta T}[/tex]
and
[tex]\eta_2=1-\frac{T_{min}'}{T_{max}}=\frac{T_{max}-T_{min}+\Delta T}{T_{max}}[/tex]
If you rearrange those two:
[tex]\eta_1(T_{max}+\Delta T)=\eta_2T_{max}[/tex]

So it is obvious that [tex]\eta_1>\eta_2[/tex] the efficiency of Carnot cycle is greater when you take away the temp from cold reservoir. :)
 
thats great, thanks

anybody have any idea for e), even just a prod in the right direction would be excellent.
 
For e), the condition for minimum work to be achieved is the coefficient of performance [tex]\eta = \frac{dQ_{cool}}{dA} = \frac{T_{cool}}{T_{hot}-T_{cool}}[/tex]
Where:
[tex]dA[/tex] is the work needed to lower the temperature by [tex]dT[/tex]
[tex]dQ_{cool}[/tex] is the heat taken from the water/ice.
[tex]T_{hot}[/tex] is the temperature of the sink, which is the air in this problem.
[tex]T_{cool}[/tex] is the temperature of the source, which is the water/ice. Notice that [tex]T_{cool}[/tex] varies during the process.

There is another equation relating [tex]dQ_{cool}[/tex] with [tex]dT[/tex] (actually 2 equations, each corresponds to one process). Compute the integral, and you will obtain the total work needed.
 

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