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The discussion focuses on finding the inverse of a function and evaluating it at a specific value. The user struggles with solving the equation f(x) = 9 due to the presence of both x and ln(x-3) in the expression. A suggested solution involves setting x = 4, which simplifies the equation and confirms that f(4) = 9. For part b, it is clarified that applying the inverse function to f(11) will return 11, reinforcing the identity property of inverse functions. Overall, the conversation emphasizes understanding the relationship between a function and its inverse.
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Hello, I'm having trouble going about dealing with this question. It asked to find the inverse of the function and evaluate it at a certain number:

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Also for part b, do we just plug in x=11 and then take the inverse of that output value or what?

I tried using some inverse properties:

f^-1(x) = 9, then, f(x) = 9.

So I set the function equal to 9 and tried to solve for x, but it didn't really work out to well.

Your help is greatly appreciated.
 

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Umar said:
Hello, I'm having trouble going about dealing with this question. It asked to find the inverse of the function and evaluate it at a certain number:
Also for part b, do we just plug in x=11 and then take the inverse of that output value or what?

I tried using some inverse properties:

f^-1(x) = 9, then, f(x) = 9.

So I set the function equal to 9 and tried to solve for x, but it didn't really work out to well.

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Hi Umar! Welcome to MHB! ;)

Let's start with part a.
Indeed, we should solve $f(x)=9$.
And I'm afraid there's no easy solution for that, since we have $x$ and $\ln(x-3)$ next to each other in the same expression.
We can only solve it numerically, or by inspection.
The only $\ln$ we can really figure out, is $\ln 1 =0$, or more generally, $\ln e^n=n$.
Anyway, that makes the only $x$ that makes "sense" to "inspect", $x=4$, so that we have $\ln(x-3)=\ln(4-3)=\ln(1)=0$.
Does that bring us anything?

As for part b, don't we have that $f^{-1}\circ f=\operatorname{id}$? (Wondering)
 
Hello there,

I understand what you meant for part a, as making x = 4 gets rid of the ln, and then you're left with 9 = 5 + 4, so LS = RS..

But for part b, can you explain what you mean by f^-1 ∘ f =id ?
 
Umar said:
Hello there,

I understand what you meant for part a, as making x = 4 gets rid of the ln, and then you're left with 9 = 5 + 4, so LS = RS..

But for part b, can you explain what you mean by f^-1 ∘ f =id ?

Good! (Nod)

Suppose we set $y=f(x)$.
Then with $x=11$, we have $y=f(11)$.
Finding $f^{-1}(f(11))$ means finding $f^{-1}(y)$.
That is, finding $x$ such that $f(x)=y$.
But we already know for which $x$ that is the case - we already know that $f(11)=y$!
So $f^{-1}(f(11)) = 11$.

More generally, the inverse of a function (if it exists) applied to the same function is by definition the identity function (abbreviated $\operatorname{id}$).
 
Thank you so much
 

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