Need of Wave Packet: Schrodinger's Postulate

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The discussion revolves around Schrödinger's postulate regarding the equivalence of a material particle in motion to a wave packet instead of a single wave train. It explores the implications of this postulate within the context of quantum mechanics and wave mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why Schrödinger favored a wave packet over a single wave train, suggesting that a single wave train, represented by a plane-polarized wave, leads to infinite uncertainty in position space, violating the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (HUP).
  • Another participant explains that a wave packet is spatially localized, which is necessary for describing particles in experiments, such as single-slit diffraction, where particles are confined to a specific region.
  • This participant also notes that wave-functions must be normalizable, meaning the integral over all space must equal 1, a property that wave packets possess but single wave trains do not.
  • A new participant expresses a need for simpler explanations regarding the concepts discussed, indicating a potential gap in understanding among some contributors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the necessity of wave packets for representing localized particles in quantum mechanics, but there is no consensus on the broader implications of Schrödinger's postulate or the clarity of the explanations provided.

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Some assumptions about the nature of wave functions and their mathematical properties are discussed, but the discussion does not resolve these complexities or provide definitive conclusions.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals new to quantum mechanics, particularly those seeking to understand the foundational concepts of wave-particle duality and the mathematical requirements of wave functions.

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Why Schrödinger postulated that a material particle in motion is equivalent to a wave packet rather than a single wave train?
 
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roshan2004 said:
Why Schrödinger postulated that a material particle in motion is equivalent to a wave packet rather than a single wave train?

By "a single wave train" I guess you mean a plane-polarized wave with a perfectly precise wave vector, e.g.:

[tex]\phi\left(x\right) = e^{ikx}[/tex]

The problem with this function is that it has infinite extent, or infinite uncertainty in position space, as required by the HUP, since [tex]\Delta p = 0[/tex] for this choice. That means that the function is not square-integrable, and therefore is not normalizable, and cannot represent a wavefunction that is a solution the Schrödinger equation.
 
I am new to quantum mechanics and have just started introductory wave mechanics so can u please explain it to me in simple terms
 
Some of this expands on Spectracats post;

A wave-packet is a function that is spatially localised, whereas infinite wave trains continue to the ends of the universe. When we look at an experiment (single-slit diffraction for example), we know that the electrons are spatially localised in some fashion (within the lab, for example), thus we need a wave-packet to describe the position of the particle.

Since wave-functions represent probability, thus they are mathematically constrained in that the integral over all space must = 1. To be normalisable, the integral over all space must be finite. Wave-packets possesses this property, but single wave trains do not.

Claude.
 

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