Need some guidance - Graphing in Matlab

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The discussion revolves around generating a specific flow map graph in Matlab for a staggered bundle, cross flow shell and tube heat exchanger. Participants are seeking guidance on the equations needed for the flow pattern transition boundary, which are not readily available in the referenced literature.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is attempting to generate a graph in Matlab but is struggling to find the equation for the flow pattern transition boundary.
  • Another participant suggests that similar flow regime maps can be found in a specific book, indicating that the equations for transition boundaries are typically included in relevant papers.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the term "PDF," clarifying that it refers to "Probability Density Function" and not the file format.
  • Some participants discuss the possibility of generating a flow map using different data inputs, contingent on obtaining the necessary equations.
  • There is mention of a previous thread that may contain similar inquiries, suggesting a potential overlap in discussions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of the necessary equations for the transition boundaries, and there is uncertainty regarding the use of different data inputs for generating the flow map.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of specific equations in the referenced literature, which may limit their ability to proceed with the graph generation. There is also a lack of clarity on the definitions and applications of certain terms, such as "PDF."

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Need some guidance -- Graphing in Matlab

Hello, I am doing a project using Matlab. I need to generate this graph as shown in the attachment. For the gas and liquid superficial velocity, I am able to find the equation but as for the Flow pattern transition boundary equation(the darker lines), I am stuck. I have referred to Noghrehkar's journal and Ulbricht as well. Right now I am clueless of where else to look for the equation. I need to plot a flow map for a staggered bundle, cross flow shell and tube heat exchanger with vertical upright orientation.
 

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Need some guidance

Hello, I am doing a project using Matlab. I need to generate this graph as shown in the attachment. For the gas and liquid superficial velocity, I am able to find the equation but as for the Flow pattern transition boundary equation(the darker lines), I am stuck. I have referred to Noghrehkar's journal and Ulbricht as well. Right now I am clueless of where else to look for the equation. I need to plot a flow map for a staggered bundle, cross flow shell and tube heat exchanger with vertical upright orientation.
 
Sorry, no attachment provided.
 
see duplicate thread https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=721101
 
tiny-tim said:
see duplicate thread https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=721101

Two threads merged.

@MissUncertain -- please do not multiple post. That is agaist the PF rules.
 
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Thanks for the correction. Here is the link of the graph that i am trying to generate http://pressurevesseltech.asmedigitalcollection.asme.org/data/Journals/JPVTAS/28412/029104j.10.jpeg
 
I have come across lots of similar flow regime maps in the book "Liquid-Vapor Phase Change Phenomena" by Van. P Carey. Not sure if it has that exact map but it might be of some use to you. Have to say I'm kind of surprised that the equations defining the transition boundaries are not avaliable in the authors papers. All the papers I have read regarding flow-mapping always present the relevant equations.
 
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That's true. It's hard for me as I don't really have a good understanding on thermal fluid. Perhaps you can help to enlighten me here. According to the journal, Noghrehkar used PDF to generate the flow map. So if that's the case, will I still be able to generate the same graph using my own data? Because I wanted to generate the same map having the same transition boundaries but with different data input for comparison purposes. Thanks a lot sanka.
 
Not sure if I understand the question. You're saying Noghrehkar used PDF to generate the flow map? I presume he just exported the map from MATLAB in the .pdf file format. Otherwise, I don't know what "PDF" is referring to. In any case, you should be able to generate your own map, provided you obtain the equations that define the transition boundaries. I actually did some similar work, albeit for condensation flow mapping, and had no issues. Although, I had the relevant equations readily available. Also, it might take some practice to get the plotting correct in MATLAB but if you are an experienced user, you should be fine.
 
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Sorry for the lack of info.. apparently.. PDF refers to "Probability Density Function" Yeah.. right now I am not able to proceed since i don't have the equation.. :( I'm so glad that you had done something similar. Will be looking for you for advice :)
 

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