Net force on rectangular circuit

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The discussion centers on analyzing the net force acting on a rectangular circuit in a magnetic field. Participants clarify that the internal net force within the rectangular wire is zero, with the only force acting on it being from the long wire below. The direction of the net force on the rectangular loop is determined by the strength of the magnetic field, which is stronger near the long wire, indicating a downward force. There is also a correction regarding the magnetic field directions around the rectangle, which were initially misinterpreted. Proper evaluation of unit vectors and the right-hand rule is emphasized for accurate analysis.
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Am i correct for a? I drew my interpretations of the magnetic field around each section.
For b) am i correct to think the internal net force in the rectangular wire is 0, and the only force acting on it is that of the long wire at the bottom. And if that is correct, which way is the net force acting on the rectangular loop?
 
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For part a, all your forces have to be in opposite direction.
F=i (L×B)
For the bottom part, L is along ##-\hat i## and B is along ##\hat k##.
L×B is along ##-\hat j## or downwards.
 
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Why are they in opposite directions? Does that not fit the right hand rule?
 
Alameen Damer said:
For b) am i correct to think the internal net force in the rectangular wire is 0, and the only force acting on it is that of the long wire at the bottom.
yes
And if that is correct, which way is the net force acting on the rectangular loop?
where is the B field stronger, nearer the long wire or farther away from it?
 
Near the long wire, then it must be acting downwards correct?
 
Alameen Damer said:
Near the long wire, then it must be acting downwards correct?
Since you previously showed that you could determine the direction I'm giving you a "Yes".
 
Ok, are the directions of the magnetic field around the rectangle wrong?
 
Alameen Damer said:
Ok, are the directions of the magnetic field around the rectangle wrong?
They're wrong.
Set up a coordinate system x to the right, y up, z out of page. Then evaluate the various unit vectors.
E.g. for the top left segment we get i x -k = ?
Learn the circular +/- i +/- j+/- k ↔ +/- i diagram for the signs. I find it a whole lot easier than twisting my hand and fingers into unnatural shapes ...
 
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