Net Gain in Roulette Betting - Expectation & Standard Deviation

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The discussion revolves around a betting scenario involving a special roulette wheel with seven outcomes. Participants are analyzing the expected net gain and standard deviation after multiple plays of the game, focusing on the implications of using different formulas for variance in a binomial distribution context.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of mean and standard deviation for a betting game modeled as a binomial distribution. There is exploration of different formulas for variance, with some questioning the application of certain formulas in the context of repeated trials.

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The conversation has progressed with some participants clarifying their understanding of the binomial distribution and its parameters. One participant initially struggled with the standard deviation calculation but later indicated they resolved their confusion by correctly applying the binomial distribution approach.

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There is mention of specific outcomes and probabilities associated with the roulette game, as well as the number of trials (400) impacting the calculations. Participants also note the importance of distinguishing between linear transformations and repeated trials in their calculations.

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30) A special roulette wheel has seven equally likely outcomes: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. If you bet that an odd number comes up, you win or lose $10 according to whether or not that event occurs. If X denotes your ‘net’ gain, X=10 if we see 1, 3, or 5, and X = -10 otherwise. Suppose that you play this game 400 times. Let Y be your net gain after these 400 plays. The mean (expectation) and standard deviation of Y are, respectively (accurate to the number of figures shown):
A) -270; 198
B) -571; 198
C) -270; 988
D) -571; 988
E) none of the other answers displayed




I can get the mean (-571), but for the standard deviation, I only get the answer (apparently 198) when I use the formula:

sigma² _ new = b * sigma²_old

When the formula SHOULD use b², instead of just b.

(Im using sigma² = Sum((x_i-u)²*p) to get the original variance.)
 
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30) A special roulette wheel has seven equally likely outcomes: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. If you bet that an odd number comes up, you win or lose $10 according to whether or not that event occurs. If X denotes your ‘net’ gain, X=10 if we see 1, 3, or 5, and X = -10 otherwise. Suppose that you play this game 400 times. Let Y be your net gain after these 400 plays. The mean (expectation) and standard deviation of Y are, respectively (accurate to the number of figures shown):
A) -270; 198
B) -571; 198
C) -270; 988
D) -571; 988
E) none of the other answers displayed




I can get the mean (-571), but for the standard deviation, I only get the answer (apparently 198) when I use the formula:

sigma² _ new = b * sigma²_old

When the formula SHOULD use b², instead of just b.

(Im using sigma² = Sum((x_i-u)²*p) to get the original variance.)
On anyone spin your probability of winning is 3/7 and of losing is 4/7. This is a binomial distribution with p= 3/7, q= 4/7 and N= 400. The mean value, and standard deviation for a binomial distribution with p, q, n are np and \sqrt{npq} respectively. With your values, yes, -571 is the expectation and 988, not 198, is the is the standard deviation. I can't say anything about your formula, sigma² _ new = b * sigma²_old, since you haven said what "b" and "sigma_old" are.
 
What I did was the mean is:

400*[(3/7)(10)+(4/7)(-10)]
= -571

Now, for standard deviation, it should be:

(For a single turn) variation =

sigma^2=[10-(-1.428)]^2*(3/7)+[-10-(-1.428)]^2*(4/7)

So, sigma_new² (after 400 turns) SHOULD =

b^2*sigma^2
=400²*([10-(-1.428)]²*(3/7)+[-10-(-1.428)]²*(4/7))²

However, I only get the right answer (which is 198), when I simply use 400 instead of 400².
 
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Nevermind, I got it using binomial distribution. The formula I was using before was for when you linearly transform by multiplying by 400, not when you repeat 400 times.

Thanks
 

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