Neutron Absortion cross section for an element

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the neutron absorption cross section for various elements, specifically exploring how to derive or separate absorption and scattering cross sections from the total cross section data provided by the Evaluated Nuclear Data File (ENDF).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in deriving absorption and scattering cross sections from the total cross section data available in the ENDF.
  • Another participant states that the ENDF contains various partial cross-sections but asserts that there is no method to separate out the components from the total cross section.
  • A participant suggests that while the ENDF includes elastic scattering cross section data, it lacks explicit absorption cross section data, proposing that it might be possible to deduce absorption cross section by subtracting elastic scattering and other cross sections from the total cross section.
  • It is noted that the absorption cross section in the ENDF is represented by MT# 27, which combines total fission and radiative capture cross sections.
  • A participant provides a link to another part of the ENDF website that may contain the desired information and offers assistance if needed.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the discussion and indicates a willingness to seek further clarification as needed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the ability to separate absorption and scattering cross sections from the total cross section, with some asserting it is not possible while others propose methods to estimate it.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations regarding the clarity of available data in the ENDF and the assumptions made about the relationships between different types of cross sections.

sm.malkapur
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I recently saw the Evaluated Nuclear Data File provided by Brookhaven national lab., where in i saw the plot of "Neutron Energy Vs cross section (total)" for different elements. http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/sigma/index.jsp?as=1&lib=endfb7.0&nsub=10

Now what i am interested in is, can we derive or get the asbsorption c/s, scattering c/s (elastic and inelastic) out of this total c/s "for any element" (i mean can we separate out absorption c/s,scattering c/s out of total c.s.). If possible how..? let me know if there are any links..

Thank you
sm.malkapur
 
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The ENDF also contains the various partial cross-sections. There is no way to separate out the components.
 
Ya it contains elastic scattering c/s part, but not the absorption part. May be we will get it by deducting elastic scatt c/s, and other c/s in total c/s i guess.
Thank you for ur reply Mr Mathman.
 
sm.malkapur said:
Ya it contains elastic scattering c/s part, but not the absorption part. May be we will get it by deducting elastic scatt c/s, and other c/s in total c/s i guess.
Thank you for ur reply Mr Mathman.

Absorption cross section in ENDF is MT# 27 which is the sum of the total fission and radiative capture cross sections.
 
Thanks a lot Mr. QuantumPion and Mr. cmb, this discussion forum is a nice learning process for me. However, it takes me a little more time to understand this c/s fully, but soon i wll come up with it., and if there are any difficulties i wl be happy to ask u again..
thanks PF..
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Santhosh Malkapur
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