Newbie to Forum/Physics: Get Started for NASA Job

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The discussion revolves around a newcomer seeking advice on how to prepare for a potential career at NASA, specifically in programming flight simulations and robotics. Participants explore educational pathways, including high school and college courses, and extracurricular activities that may enhance the newcomer’s prospects in the field of physics and engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to work for NASA and seeks recommendations for physics books and high school courses.
  • Some participants question the newcomer’s reference to high school classes while identifying as a college freshman, leading to confusion about their educational status.
  • A suggestion is made that joining a robotics team could provide valuable experience.
  • Several participants discuss the importance of high school performance, with differing views on how critical it is for future opportunities at NASA.
  • One participant argues that while high school grades matter, what one does in college is ultimately more significant for career prospects.
  • Another participant warns against the idea of neglecting high school performance, emphasizing the importance of maintaining good grades to access better colleges.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for burnout among high-achieving students in high school, suggesting a balanced approach to education and extracurricular activities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express mixed views on the importance of high school performance for future opportunities at NASA. While some emphasize the necessity of good grades, others suggest that college performance is more crucial. The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the best approach for the newcomer.

Contextual Notes

There are varying assumptions about the educational system and its terminology, with some participants reflecting on their own experiences from years past, which may not align with current practices.

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Hi, I am new here and too physics (kinda of (im a freshman)). My goal is to have a chance working for NASA or something similar to it. The job i want is to Program flight simulations and/or program "robots". I am taking intro to physics (1st semester) and intro to chemistry 2nd semester. I know i need to further my Physics tremendously and i know i need to take programming courses and have a degree in comp sci./soft. eng. but i would like some books to start off in Physics and what courses in high school should i take?
 
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ok, should i just go to another forum and ask for help?
 
mk6248 said:
ok, should i just go to another forum and ask for help?

you could if you want to, but just so you know you won't find any better.
 
You're a college freshman and you're asking what high school classes to take?I'm confused.
 
Jack21222 said:
You're a college freshman and you're asking what high school classes to take?I'm confused.

I'm fairly sure he means that he is a freshman in high school.
 
mosenja said:
I'm fairly sure he means that he is a freshman in high school.

Ok, then I'm confused as to why he's talking about semesters, and course titles like "Intro to Chemistry."

Has high school changed that much in 9 years? We didn't have "semesters" and my physics and chemistry classes were just called "physics" and "chemistry."

My advice for the high school freshman is to just take whatever math is allowed. It's cute that a 13 or 14 year old wants to work for NASA, but I'd argue there's not much meaningful that can be done at that age to seriously improve your chances.

If your school has a robotics team, join that, I guess.
 
It's not like a little kid fantasy, I'll actually do what is needed to get there i want to work for nasa. And yes we do have semisters (first and second) and also yes that's what they are called in out school intro to physics/chemistry and then jr./sr. you take advanced then college phyics/chemistry.

And it's a small school though i am talking with the guidence counsler about and It olympics group (in iowa). So i should get security and robots down alittle if we get one started
 
You could literally fail out of high school, do amazingly well in community college, transfer to a 4 year school, then graduate with your degree, and still have a shot at working at NASA. That's the hard way to do it, of course, but it can be done.

That's why I said there's not much special you can do right now to impact your chances with NASA. They likely won't look at your high school record. To prepare for college, take all the science and math classes you can, but beyond that, there's not much to do. Just get good grades to improve your chance at getting into a good school, and go from there.

You might see if you can get your school involved in the FIRST Robotics competition next year. It might take some initiative on your part to drum up interest among the staff and your students, but here's a website for you:

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/frc/content.aspx?id=14538

If you want to get into robotics, it's not too early to start.
 
Jack21222 said:
You could literally fail out of high school, do amazingly well in community college, transfer to a 4 year school, then graduate with your degree, and still have a shot at working at NASA. That's the hard way to do it, of course, but it can be done.

That's why I said there's not much special you can do right now to impact your chances with NASA. They likely won't look at your high school record. To prepare for college, take all the science and math classes you can, but beyond that, there's not much to do. Just get good grades to improve your chance at getting into a good school, and go from there.

DO NOT EVEN THINK OF DOING THIS!
Though NASA will not see your high school grades, they will see where you went to college. And high school grades determine where you go for college. Study hard in high school, get into a good university and then you could get into NASA.

I would recommend taking all of the physics and math possible (AP physics C, AP calc BC, etc). Also, FIRST would be a great opprotunity for someone like you. It will give you some real experience while you are still in high school.
 
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DR13 said:
DO NOT EVEN THINK OF DOING THIS!
Though NASA will not see your high school grades, they will see where you went to college. And high school grades determine where you go for college. Study hard in high school, get into a good university and then you could get into NASA.

I would recommend taking all of the physics and math possible (AP physics C, AP calc BC, etc). Also, FIRST would be a great opprotunity for someone like you. It will give you some real experience while you are still in high school.

i'm not sure you read the whole of his post, he began with an extreme example, and then went on to give the advice you've almost entirely copied...

it's sound advice on the part of Jack, study hardcore & get involved in some good extra curriculars and you should find yourself in a good position in terms of college and go from there. good luck.
 
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Chewy0087 said:
i'm not sure you read the whole of his post, he began with an extreme example, and then went on to give the advice you've almost entirely copied...

I did read the entire post and i know that he did recommend FIRST as well. I just wanted to point out how important it truly is to do well in HS. Though it is possible to get to NASA with the route jack described at first, I believe that no one should even put that thought in their mind.

Also, I thought that FIRST was such a good idea (being a former member myself) I wanted to repeat it for the OP to show how much of a good thing it is.

Sorry if i was unclear
 
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DR13 said:
I did read the entire post and i know that he did recommend FIRST as well. I just wanted to point out how important it truly is to do well in HS. Though it is possible to get to NASA with the route jack described at first, I believe that no one should even put that thought in their mind.

It isn't that important, however. Doing bad will hurt your chances, of course, but if you get a B here or there and don't go to Stanford or MIT, it's just a bump in the road. What you actually DO at college and in your graduate career is more important than where it is at.
 
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DR13 said:
I believe that no one should even put that thought in their mind.

On one hand, you're right, my extreme example is obviously not the way to do it, and it shouldn't even be considered as a serious option. On the other hand, the kid has a decade of work ahead of him, and too much stress can crack a person. This is a marathon, not a sprint.

Several of the top students in my high school graduating class burnt themselves out in high school. These were the kids with a 3.9 GPA in gifted and AP classes, participating in 2 or 3 extra-curricular activities, and never did a thing "wrong" in high school. It was all study, all the time.

When they reached college, some of them just cracked. The "goody two-shoes" kids went completely unhinged with the alcohol and the partying, and ended up failing out. I'm thinking of two in particular that were a real shock to me.

I just wonder if they had paced themselves if they'd have done better in college where it really matters. Like I said, this is a marathon, not a sprint.
 

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