Newton's Law of Gravitation vs. Gravitational Potential Energy

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The discussion clarifies the distinction between two equations for gravitational potential energy: PEG = G(m1m2/r) and PEG = mgh. The first equation applies to large masses and varying distances, while the second is an approximation used near the Earth's surface. The potential energy expression includes a negative sign, indicating that potential energy decreases as masses approach each other. The approximation for PEG near Earth's surface simplifies to mgh, where g is approximately 9.8 m/s2.

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I'm confused about the two equations:
PE_{G}=G\frac{m1*m2}{r}

PE_{G}=mgh

When do you use either of these equations? Can these two equations be used interchangeably or not? Also, I think I remember reading somewhere that you need to use the 1st equation when the problem involves large masses and the 2nd equation when the problem is just talking about things on Earth.

Does anyone mind explaining when to use each of these equations and when not to? Why does it matter? Thanks.
 
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The potential energy of two (spherical) masses a distance r apart actually contains a minus sign such that the closer the two masses are the less potential energy they have. You might know that you can freely add a constant to this expression as only differences in potential energy are observable.

-G \frac{m_1 m_2}{r}

When close to the Earth's surface (r=R+h, with R the radius of the eart and h the height above the Earth's surface) you can approximate

-1/r \approx -\frac{2}{R} + \frac{R+h}{R^2} = -\frac{1}{R} + \frac{h}{R^2}

Using this in the above expression for the potential energy (with m_2 = M is the Earth's mass) we get

G \frac{m M h}{R^2}

plus some constant that can be ignored (as remarked above). Now, calling the factor

g \equiv G \frac{M}{R^2} \approx 9,8 m/s^2

we get the second expression for the potential energy near the Earth's surface:

mgh
 
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So concerning your question, the second expression you quote is an approximation of the first (more general) expression. It is a valid approximation only close to the surface of some mass where the approximation I made in the above derivation is applicable.
 

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