Newton's Laws: Finding the tension in a cord.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in a cord supporting a mass under different acceleration conditions. The subject area is classical mechanics, specifically Newton's laws of motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between tension, weight, and acceleration, questioning how to combine forces when the mass is accelerating upwards or downwards. Some express confusion over the application of equations and the reasoning behind certain values in sample problems.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the fundamental principles of force addition and the impact of acceleration on tension. There is an acknowledgment of the need to integrate multiple equations and concepts, though not all participants have reached a complete understanding.

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Participants mention a sample problem from a physics book, which may influence their understanding and approach. There is also a reference to guidance from a teacher that may have shaped their initial thinking.

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Homework Statement


A 5.0-kg mass hangs at the end of a cord. Find the tensionin the cord if the acceleration of the mass is a)1.5 m/s squared up, b) 1.5 m/s squared down

Answers: a) 57 N; b)42 N
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A sample question in our physics book is "An object of mass m is supported by a cord. Find the tension in the cord if the object is a) at rest, b) moving at a constant velocity, c) accelerating upward with acceleration a = 3g/2, and d) accelerating downward at a = 0.75g

a) ay = 0: FT - mg = may = 0 or FT = mg
b) ay = 0: FT - mg = may = 0 or FT = mg
c) ay = 3g/2: FT - mg = m(3g/2) or FT = 2.5mg
d) ay = -3g/4: FT - mg = m(-3g/2)or FT = 0.25mg

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


I know there is something I'm just not getting in this problem... It should be so simple but everytime i look at it and attempt it i just keep getting the wrong answer... Also in the sample problem, how are they getting 2.5 out of 3g/2? It's just not clicking!
 
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Remember f = ma and forces add so you have weight f = m g, and an extra force due to accelration f = m a.
Think about wether acclerating up or down will make the tension more or less to tell you if you should add or subtract the second force.
 
so basically all you do is add?

(mg) + (ma) = (5 x 9.8) + (5 x 1.5) = 56.5 ~57 N
(mg) + (ma) = (5 x 9.8) + (5 x -1.5) = 41.5 ~42 N
(mg) + (ma) = (5 x 9.8) + (5 x -9.8) = 0

ahh it makes so much sense now! i was so fixed on only using one equation. i never thought of using the 2 together. i was thinking too simple now. welli suppose i can blame my teacher for telling us to think simple. thank you!
 
The trick to classical physics is
1, draw a diagram
2, don't do the maths until you understand what's happening
3, it's generally simpler than you think
 

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