Newtons laws: Seem's simple but not for me

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving Newton's laws of motion, specifically focusing on determining the position function r(t) given initial conditions and a force function F that depends on position, velocity, and time.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express uncertainty about how to begin solving the problem, particularly regarding the nature of the force function F. Questions arise about the specific form of F and its dependencies on the variables involved.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants seeking clarification on the force function F and discussing its implications for solving the equation. Some participants suggest that the lack of a specific form for F complicates finding a general solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem lacks a clear definition of the force function F, which is crucial for progressing towards a solution. The discussion reflects a mix of assumptions and interpretations regarding the dependencies of F on the variables.

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Homework Statement


given initial coordinates, r(0), r'(0) and F(r,r',t)
find r(t)

Homework Equations


r''(t) = F(r(t), r'(t), t) / m


The Attempt at a Solution


have no idea where to start. some hint please, seem's pretty simple but not striking me.
 
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hi premsantosh! :smile:

what is F ? :confused:
 
Am sorry for not explaining the variables.
F = force
r is the position
r' is the velocity
r'' is the acceleration
t is the time
m is the mass

so essentially the first equation is: a = F/m
 
yes i know, but what function is F ? :confused:
 
I am not sure what your question is but I am assuming you are referring to F(r,r',t)
If its that then I am sorry that's what I do not understand too :P
Since it says F is dependent on the position, velocity at the current time t, I think we can maybe use some kind of equations to solve??
 
F could be any function of r r' and t …

you need to know what it is before you can solve it

where did you get this question from? :confused:
 
premsantosh said:
I am not sure what your question is but I am assuming you are referring to F(r,r',t)
If its that then I am sorry that's what I do not understand too :P
Since it says F is dependent on the position, velocity at the current time t, I think we can maybe use some kind of equations to solve??

There's no general solution for all F. There's lots of solutions for specific F. Most of them are when F is independent of t.

F = C. Solution r(t) = r(0) + r'(o)t + 1/2 (C/m) t^2
F = -kr(t). Solution r = A sin(B + Ct)

etc.
 

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