Newton's Theory of Gravity Problem help

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The problem involves two 100 kg lead spheres suspended from massless cables, which are anchored 1 meter apart. The inquiry focuses on determining the distance between the centers of the spheres, considering the gravitational attraction between them and the implications of the cable lengths.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster expresses confusion about the relationship between the problem and Newton's theory of gravity, questioning how to apply the gravitational force equation to find the distance between the spheres. Other participants suggest using trigonometry and free body diagrams (FBDs) to analyze the situation, while the original poster seeks clarification on how gravitational attraction affects the position of the spheres.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometry and the importance of considering the angles involved, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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The original poster notes a lack of familiarity with trigonometry and physics concepts, indicating potential gaps in foundational knowledge that may affect their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


"Two 100 kg lead spheres are suspended from 100-m-long massless cables. The tops of the cables have been carefully anchored exactly 1 m apart. What is the distance between the centers of the spheres?

Homework Equations


F = (Gm1m2)/r^2 ?

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure how this problem is related to Newton's theory and I am confused at this problem as I think the answer should simply be 1 meter because that is exactly how far the cables are anchored apart. Using the equation for F that I have provided I get 6.67x10^-7 N. This is the only equation we have really learned in class and I am unsure how this applies to the problem or how I use this to calculate the distance between the centers of the spheres. I feel dumb because this problem sounds so easy but I feel like I'm missing something. The book says it's a medium difficulty problem and that it requires material from earlier chapters but I'm not sure what. I would greatly appreciate any help on this to get me going. Thanks!
 
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aarunt1 said:
Two 100 kg lead spheres are suspended from 100-m-long massless cables. The tops of the cables have been carefully anchored exactly 1 m apart. What is the distance between the centers of the spheres?

Hi aarunt1! Welcome to PF! :smile:

The tops are a metre apart, but the cables can swing, so the bottoms can be nearer if the lead spheres attract each other.

Use trigonometry, and FBDs! :smile:
 
thanks for the welcome. I figured that the spheres would probably attract each other somewhat and I calculated the gravitational attraction (I believe) in my attempt at the solution please correct me if I am wrong tho. I am unsure how to calculate how far 6.67x10^-7 N would push each sphere in. Is there an equation I can use for this? Thanks!
 
aarunt1 said:
I am unsure how to calculate how far 6.67x10^-7 N would push each sphere in. Is there an equation I can use for this? Thanks!

The cables are at an angle, so consider the tension in one of the cables … that's what the FBD is for! :wink:
 
I'm all for the FBD idea but I don't know how to get the angles. If they were provided in the equation that would be cake but I can't remember there being a way to calculate them. Sorry for being so noob I haven't used trig in a long time and it's over a year since I've taken a physics class.
 
aarunt1 said:
I'm all for the FBD idea but I don't know how to get the angles. If they were provided in the equation that would be cake but I can't remember there being a way to calculate them. Sorry for being so noob I haven't used trig in a long time and it's over a year since I've taken a physics class.

Hi aarunt1! :smile:

No problem … the sine of the angle (which is equal to the tangent for very small angles) is the horizontal displacement divided by the length of the cable. :smile:
 

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