Nietzsche's Thus Spoke Zarathustra

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Nietzsche's "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" is often regarded as a challenging text that requires prior familiarity with his philosophical concepts. Readers are advised to engage with earlier works such as "Human, All Too Human," "Genealogy of Morals," and "Beyond Good and Evil" to better understand the themes presented in Zarathustra. The discussion highlights that without a foundational grasp of Nietzsche's philosophy, readers may find the text confusing and unenjoyable. A suggested reading order for Nietzsche's works is provided to facilitate comprehension.

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  • Familiarity with Nietzsche's philosophical concepts
  • Understanding of "Human, All Too Human"
  • Knowledge of "Genealogy of Morals"
  • Acquaintance with "Beyond Good and Evil"
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  • Read "Human, All Too Human" for foundational philosophical concepts
  • Explore "Genealogy of Morals" to understand Nietzsche's views on morality
  • Study "Beyond Good and Evil" for insights into Nietzsche's critique of traditional morality
  • Investigate online study guides and translations of "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" for deeper comprehension
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Philosophy students, literary scholars, and anyone seeking to understand Nietzsche's complex ideas and their implications in "Thus Spoke Zarathustra."

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Hey guys,

I have read many challenging books in the past, but this supposed "greatest book ever written" is kicking my butt. A lot of things in it make no sense whatsoever. You almost need to read it along with a translation of the many mataphors that Nietzsche likes to use. I would like to start a discussion on this book to help me understand some of the ideas a little better, or maybe find some online notes or a guide. Google results were not enough.

l would also like to hear from anyone who read the book and what they thought of it.
 
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Moneer81 said:
Hey guys,

I have read many challenging books in the past, but this supposed "greatest book ever written" is kicking my butt. A lot of things in it make no sense whatsoever. You almost need to read it along with a translation of the many mataphors that Nietzsche likes to use. I would like to start a discussion on this book to help me understand some of the ideas a little better, or maybe find some online notes or a guide. Google results were not enough.

l would also like to hear from anyone who read the book and what they thought of it.
I suggest you read the "Geneology of Morals" and "Beyond Good and Evil" first. Basically he is telling the same thing there as in the Zarathustra book but in a completely different form.

I think the two above mentioned books are much better than the Zarathustra story.

I can imagine that someone who is not familiar with Nietzsche's philosohpies and is picking up the Zarathustra book is going to be completely lost.
One has to have at least an understanding if not a certain level of agreement with Nietzsche's philosophy to make it worthwhile to read it. Someone who understands but disagrees with his main points will find no philosophy of any value to him there and neither any entertainment, on the contrary he would possibly find nothing but irritation in reading it.


My suggestion on the preferred order in reading Nietzsche work would be:

1. Human all too Human
2. Geneology of Morals
3. Beyond good and Evil
4. Thus spoke Zarathustra
5. The Gay Science
6. Twilight of the Idols
7. The Anti-Christ
8. the rest of his works

The first book is the most "philosophical" book and spans a very large range of topics. After that he makes a change in focus alomost exclusively towards morality in the next three books. 5 and 6 relate (among many other things) to science and metaphysics.
 
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MeJennifer said:
Someone who understands but disagrees with his main points will find no philosophy of any value to him there and neither any entertainment, on the contrary he would possibly find nothing but irritation in reading it.
That's me! :wink:

I read it, but I would be lying if I said that I enjoyed it.
 

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