Textbook to help me understand eigenvectors and diagonalization

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The discussion revolves around the understanding of eigenvectors and diagonalization, particularly in the context of self-study for physics and engineering applications. Participants seek resources that explain these concepts clearly, avoiding overly abstract mathematical texts.

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  • One participant expresses confusion over the explanations of eigenvectors and diagonalization in their current textbook, suggesting that the material is too condensed.
  • Another participant recommends consulting linear algebra texts or quantum mechanics books to see these topics in a physical context.
  • A participant acknowledges understanding the process of diagonalization and finding eigenvalues and eigenvectors but questions their practical applications.
  • Another contributor explains that diagonalization simplifies operators and highlights the use of eigenvalues and eigenvectors in solving systems of differential equations and in quantum mechanics.
  • One participant mentions finding clearer explanations on a different website, indicating that additional resources can aid understanding.

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Participants generally agree on the need for clearer explanations and resources, but there is no consensus on the best approach to understanding the applications of eigenvectors and diagonalization.

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Some participants note the limitations of their current textbook in adequately covering the topic within a limited number of pages, suggesting a need for more comprehensive resources.

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Hi, I'm currently self-teaching myself some mathematics needed to study physics. I'm working through the book Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences by Mary L Boas. The book is a well known one, and it's used in many physics programs to teach their math courses.

However, I've read the section on eigenvectors and diagonalization many times, and I still feel like I don't really understand what's going on.

Is there a book (or even better, a free online textbook) where these subjects are explained in a clear way? I don't want a very abstract book destined to math majors, I'd like something written for physics/engineering students.

Thanks in advance
 
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Do you know what is causing your confusion?

First off, you could always just look at a pure linear algebra text like Strang, Anton or Lay.

Second, you may want to look at a quantum mechanics book and see those topics in a physical context. A classical mechanics book would also have it when discussing rotational dynamics of rigid bodies.
 
The confusion mostly comes from the fact that very few explanation is given in the book, which is a consequence of the vast amount of material covered. Somehow I don't feel like eigenvectors/diagonalization can reastically be exlpained in 5-6 pages.

I'll try to find one of the books you listed at my university's library, thank you.
 
Well, what exactly is causing your confusion? How a matrix can be diagonalized, what an eigenvector is, how we find them?
 
I understand how to diagonalize, how to find eigenvalues and eigenvectors, but I don't understand what they're used for. I know that the vectors in the first system that are parallel to the eigenvectors will simply be shrunk/extended without being rotated or reflected, but that's pretty much it. What's the point of finding the eigenvectors?
 
From what I can tell (speaking from probably about a year more experience than what you have, so there are most likely some details missing), one of the main benefits of diagonalization is it allows you to simplify an operator; instead of having a very messy matrix, you can simplify it greatly and find it's eigenvalues very easily.

Eigenvalues and vectors have a lot of applications. For differential equations, if you have a system of differential equations then you can represent the system through a matrix, and find solutions from the eigenvalues/vectors of the matrix (simplified greatly, but more detail here http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/SolutionsToSystems.aspx)

As for other applications, eigenvalues and eigenfunctions of operators give measurable values in Quantum Mechanics (note that functions are vectors in Quantum, but to understand why takes a little more theoretical understanding of Linear Algebra).

For a more mathematical application, if you have a diagonalizable matrix, you can use eigenvectors to create a basis for the vector space you're working with (and vice versa; they're equivalent) this is nice when working in a new mathematical system. For instance, in quantum we use this to help find all of the possible solutions to the 1-dimensional harmonic oscillator.
 
Thanks for the explanations, and for the link. On that website I found paul's notes on eigenvectors and they were much clearer than my book!
 

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