No Electrons, No Forces: What's the Result?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of an atom having no electrons, particularly in terms of interactions with other atoms that do have electrons. Participants explore the nature of such atoms, the concept of charge, and the potential outcomes of forcing two positively charged entities together.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that without electrons, atoms could "really touch" each other, raising questions about the nature of atomic interactions.
  • Several participants inquire about the definition and existence of an atom without electrons, with one suggesting that a hydrogen atom could lose its single electron.
  • There is a discussion about the concept of charge, with participants questioning whether it is possible for an atom to exist without electrons.
  • One participant mentions that an atom without electrons is essentially a nucleus and discusses the complexities of nuclear physics related to atomic interactions.
  • Another participant introduces the term "ion," explaining that ions are charged entities formed by stripping electrons from neutral atoms, which influences how they interact.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the nature of atoms without electrons and their interactions. Participants express uncertainty about definitions and the implications of such scenarios.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about atomic structure and interactions, as well as the scope of nuclear physics in relation to the original question. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the nature of atoms without electrons.

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Well, when 2 atoms get close, we don't feel the touch between them but the forces between electrons. So what will happen if there's atom with no electrons, so any other atom with electrons will be able to really "touch" it( because there would be no force between electrons). What will happen then?
 
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What is an atom without electrons?
 
Borek said:
What is an atom without electrons?
Atom that has no electrons, let's say the H will "give" the 1 he has, will he stay with no electrons I guess?
 
Charge?
 
Borek said:
Charge?
Is it possible for an atom to have no electrons?
 
Yes. Borek wants you to mention ( or look up) "states of matter". There are four. He does not want solid, liquid, or gas, so it must be ______
 
What would happen if you tried to force two atoms together, each of which was positively charged?
 
An atom with no electrons is called a 'nucleus'. What can happen when you force two together is a large part of nuclear physics which relieves us here of a duty to respond because this is the wrong forum. :D
One thing I know can happen is they just bounce off each other. If I am not mistaken for more complicated things to happen the collisions have to be at such high energies that it doesn't matter whether the electrons of an atom are there or not. So the question might be put in another forum, but I don't think there is a very brief answer.
 
So far nobody used word I was hoping for - ion. Ions are charged. Ions made by stripping electrons from the neutral atoms are positive. That points to the simplest possible answer about how they will interact. I doubt OP wanted anything more elaborate.
 

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