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This discussion focuses on Example 3 from Section 4.2 of Paul E. Bland's book "Rings and Their Modules," specifically addressing Noetherian and Artinian modules. Participants seek clarification on the nature of the sets ##V_1##, ##V_2##, and ##V_3##, and the relationships between them, particularly that ##V_n \subset V_{n+1}##. The conversation also critiques the author's notation for indexing basis elements, suggesting that a simpler notation would enhance readability and comprehension.

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I am reading Paul E. Bland's book "Rings and Their Modules" ...

Currently I am focused on Section 4.2 Noetherian and Artinian Modules ... ...

I need some help in order to fully understand Example 3, Section 4.2 ...

Example 3, Section 4.2 reads as follows:
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My questions are as follows:Question 1

Can someone please explain/illustrate the nature of ##V_1## ... ?
Question 2

Can someone please demonstrate exactly how ##V_1 \subseteq V_2 \subseteq V_3 \subseteq## ...
Help will be appreciated ...

Peter
 

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$$V_1\triangleq x_{\alpha_1}D\triangleq \{x_{\alpha_1}d\ :\ d\in D\}$$
and recall that ##x_{\alpha_1}## is the first element of the set ##\Gamma## and 'scalar' multiplication of module elements by division-ring elements occurs on the right.

The direct sum referred to is an internal direct sum.

For ##n\geq 1## we have:

$$V_n \triangleq \bigoplus_{k=1}^n x_{\alpha_k} D
\triangleq \left\{\sum_{k=1}^n x_{\alpha_k}d_k\ :\ \forall k\ (d_k\in D)\right\}$$

To see that ##V_{n}\subset V_{n+1}## observe that ##V_n## is just the set of elements of ##V_{n+1}## with ##d_{n+1}=0_D##.

I can't help adding that it strikes me as unfortunate that the author uses this (in my opinion) ugly method of double-indexing the elements of ##\Gamma##, as ##x_{\alpha_i}##. It is much cleaner and less confusing to make ##\Delta## the basis, rather than an index set for a basis, and just write ##x## for an arbitrary element of the basis, and ##x_i## for an element of the countable subset ##\Gamma## of the basis set. With the double-indexing it is harder to read, harder to conceptualise and it takes longer to write the latex code.
 
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andrewkirk said:
$$V_1\triangleq x_{\alpha_1}D\triangleq \{x_{\alpha_1}d\ :\ d\in D\}$$
and recall that ##x_{\alpha_1}## is the first element of the basis and 'scalar' multiplication of module elements by division-ring elements occurs on the right.

The direct sum referred to is an internal direct sum.

For ##n\geq 1## we have:

$$V_n \triangleq \bigoplus_{k=1}^n x_{\alpha_k} D
\triangleq \left\{\sum_{k=1}^n x_{\alpha_k}d_k\ :\ \forall k\ (d_k\in D)\right\}$$

To see that ##V_{n}\subset V_{n+1}## observe that ##V_n## is just the set of elements of ##V_{n+1}## with ##d_{n+1}=0_D##.

I can't help adding that it strikes me as unfortunate that the author uses this (in my opinion) ugly method of double-indexing his basis, as ##x_{\alpha_i}##. It is much cleaner and less confusing to just write ##x_i## if the index set ##\Delta## is known to be countable, and ##x_\alpha## with ##\alpha \in\Delta## where ##\Delta## is not known to be necessarily countable. With the double-indexing it is harder to read, harder to conceptualise and it takes longer to write the latex code.
Thanks for the help and guidance Andrew ...

But ... just a clarification ...

You write:

" ... ... ##x_{\alpha_1}## is the first element of the basis ... ... "

But the basis is ##\{ x_\alpha \}_\Delta## not ##\{ x_\alpha \}_\Gamma## ... ##\alpha_1## is the first element of the index set ##\Gamma## ...

Isn't it possible that ##\Delta## is an uncountably infinite set with no first element ... but ... not sure what this would mean for the basis ...

Can you clarify ...?

Peter
 
Yes, sorry, I should have written "first element of the set ##\Gamma##", which is prescribed as a countable, indexed subset of ##\Delta##. I'll go back and correct my post.
 
Thanks Andrew ...

Peter
 

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