Non-invariance under 2-Pi rotations?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of quantum systems and their invariance under 2π rotations, specifically in relation to the change in sign of the wave function. It is explained that this is not a significant issue since probabilities are always taken in squared form. The conversation also mentions Ballentine's book on quantum mechanics and how the (-1)^s factor comes from spinors being double-valued functions. The concept of rotation and its effect on spinor operators and eigenstates is also discussed. Finally, it is mentioned that Dirac used this concept to explain the topological differences between rotating an object 2π and 4π radians.
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I have heard that quantum systems (and therefor all physical systems) are not truly invariant under 2∏ rotations. Something to do w/ the wave function changing sign. Is this true? Can someone point me to an on-line primer on this?

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Well, for non-relativistic systems in which the spin is half integral (an electron from Pauli equation, for example), a rotation of angle 2[itex]\pi[/itex] indeed changes the sign of the electronic wavefunction. However, this is not really important, because in computing the probabilities, we always take a square, thus such a phase factor is eliminated.

Anyways, Ballentine's book on QM (or any group theory book for physicists) explains how that (-1)^s comes from.
 
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There's a difference. Spinors are double-valued functions. When you write a spinor wavefunction there is always understood to be a ± sign in front. A spinor ψ is a single-valued function on the group space of SU(2), but when you go to SO(3) the mapping is twofold, and ψ becomes double-valued. Consequently for a spin one-half object, ψ and -ψ do not just "differ by a phase", they are literally the same.
 
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Here we define unit vector n in the polar coordinate.

[tex]\vec{n} = ( \sin\theta \cos\varphi, \, \sin\theta \sin\varphi, \, \cos\theta )[/tex]
Of course by 2pi rotation, this vector doesn't change,

[tex]\varphi \to \varphi + 2\pi, \qquad \vec{n} \to \vec{n}[/tex]
The n component of the spinor operator is

[tex] \hat{S}_n = \vec{n}\cdot \vec{S} = \frac{\hbar}{2} \left[ (\sin\theta \cos\varphi) \sigma_1 + (\sin\theta \sin\varphi) \sigma_2 + (\cos\theta) \sigma_3 \right][/tex]
where sigma is Pauli matrices. So,

[tex] \hat{S}_n = \frac{\hbar}{2} \left( \begin{array}{cc} \cos\theta & e^{-i\varphi} \sin\theta \\ e^{i\varphi} \sin\theta & -\cos\theta \end{array} \right) [/tex]
The eigenstate of this operator (which direction is "n" ) is

[tex]\alpha_n = \left( \begin{array}{c} \cos \frac{\theta}{2} e^{-i\varphi /2} \\ \sin\frac{\theta}{2} e^{i\varphi /2} \end{array} \right) \quad \hat{S}_n \alpha_n = \frac{\hbar}{2} \alpha_n [/tex]
If we rotate the direction of "n" by 2pi, the unit vector "n" doesn't change, as shown above.

[tex]\vec{n} \to \vec{n} \quad (\varphi \to \varphi + 2\pi)[/tex]
But its eigenstate change from +1 to -1 by 2pi rotation.

[tex]\alpha_n \to - \alpha_n \quad (\varphi \to \varphi + 2\pi) [/tex]
 
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Another way to think of it is that if an object shares an elastic force or field interaction with other objects that have spatial extension, spinning the object [itex]2\pi[/itex] radians gives a different topological situation compared with [itex]4\pi[/itex] radians.

Dirac is said to have invented this type of example to explain the concept:

Spinor rotated twice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7wvWJ3-t44&NR=1
 
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1. What is non-invariance under 2-Pi rotations?

Non-invariance under 2-Pi rotations refers to a phenomenon in which a system or equation does not remain unchanged after a rotation of 2-Pi radians (a full circle). This means that the system or equation is not rotationally symmetric.

2. How does non-invariance under 2-Pi rotations affect scientific measurements?

Non-invariance under 2-Pi rotations can affect scientific measurements by introducing errors or inconsistencies in the results. This can be especially problematic in experiments where rotational symmetry is expected, as it can lead to incorrect interpretations or conclusions.

3. What are some examples of systems that exhibit non-invariance under 2-Pi rotations?

Some examples of systems that exhibit non-invariance under 2-Pi rotations include the quantum mechanical wave function, electromagnetic fields, and certain physical laws such as the law of gravity. These systems do not remain unchanged after a full rotation, indicating a lack of symmetry.

4. How can scientists account for non-invariance under 2-Pi rotations?

Scientists can account for non-invariance under 2-Pi rotations by applying corrective methods or adjustments to their equations or measurements. This may involve factoring in the non-invariance or using alternative approaches to address the lack of symmetry in the system.

5. Are there any benefits to studying non-invariance under 2-Pi rotations?

Studying non-invariance under 2-Pi rotations can provide valuable insights into the fundamental principles of symmetry and the behavior of physical systems. It can also help scientists better understand and improve their experimental methods and measurements, leading to more accurate results and advancements in various fields of science.

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