Non-parallel double slit experiment

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The discussion revolves around the non-parallel double slit experiment, specifically exploring whether it is possible to determine which slit light passes through when the slits are not parallel. The conversation includes experimental observations, theoretical implications, and the nature of interference patterns.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes using a Bahtinov mask and a specific lens setup to observe the star Polaris, noting that only one configuration produced a double slit interference pattern, while others showed single slit patterns.
  • Another participant references an external document, the “Atlas of Optical Transforms,” suggesting it may provide relevant information.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about whether it is possible to determine which slit the light went through, acknowledging that rotating the slits may reduce the correlation of their patterns.
  • One participant states that if it becomes possible to observe which slit a photon passes through, the interference pattern is lost, highlighting a trade-off between which-way information and interference contrast.
  • Another participant reiterates the need for perfect ignorance of which-way information to achieve the best contrast in interference patterns, while also noting a specific case where some light shows strong interference despite some probabilistic information about its path.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between which-way information and interference patterns. There is no consensus on whether it is possible to determine the slit through which light passes when the slits are not parallel.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of light and interference patterns, as well as the implications of varying slit orientations. The relationship between which-way information and interference contrast remains unresolved.

Devin-M
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Is it possible to tell which slit some of the light went through when the slits aren’t parallel (green & red boxes in option 3)?

I used a Bahtinov mask to cover the aperture of my 600mm f/9 lens while observing the star Polaris. Various open slits were tested while others were covered with masking tape. -
All exposures were 5 minutes with a 656nm narrowband filter on a Nikon D800 @ 6400iso. Only option 4 appears to show a double slit interference pattern while options 1, 2 & 3 appear to show a single slit interference pattern.

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RAW Files: https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZcjE2VZR1eBfOCgGAYfuGOv9EMgPH3KIR07

A bit of prior discussion…
Post in thread 'Diffraction Effects and Artifacts in Telescopes like the JWST'
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...telescopes-like-the-jwst.1047305/post-6823238
 
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Devin-M said:
Is it possible to tell which slit some of the light went through when the slits aren’t parallel
I was going to say what I said in the thread you linked to, that you can't tell which slit the light went through. But after thinking about the problem more, I have to confess that I don't actually know. I'm assuming the more your rotate the slits relative to each other, the less correlation their patterns have, as image #3 appears to show.
 
The point is that if you make it possible to observe, through which slit a photon comes with certainty, you completely loose the interference pattern. On the other hand, if you want an interference pattern with the best contrast you can get you need perfect ignorance of the which-way information. You can of course have everything between these two extremes, i.e., you can have some probabilistic information through which slit the photon came (i.e., with some probability larger than 1/2 a photon came through one of the slits instead of the other) at the cost of lower contrast of the interference pattern and vice versa. This, of course, is a typical wave phenomenon applying to both classical waves as well as single quanta (photons) of the quantized field.
 
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vanhees71 said:
On the other hand, if you want an interference pattern with the best contrast you can get you need perfect ignorance of the which-way information.

The picture below seems a strange case… on the one hand, for the circled light (vertical spikes) we see a strong interference pattern and don’t know exactly which slit the light went through, on the other hand it seems like we also can deduce with high probability the circled light didn’t go through the diagonal slits…

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