Non solvable integral? (dx/dt)^2 dt

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The discussion revolves around the integral of the expression (dx/dt)^2 dt within the context of a nonlinear dynamical system described by a second-order differential equation. Participants explore the implications of a damping term (Kd) on the energy dynamics of the system, considering both the mathematical formulation and physical interpretation.

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  • One participant describes a nonlinear system governed by a differential equation and expresses uncertainty about integrating a term involving Kd, which is interpreted as a frictional component affecting energy loss.
  • Another participant suggests using a series expansion or an ansatz with an exponential function to approach the integral, indicating potential methods for tackling the problem.
  • A third participant reformulates the system into a second-order equation of motion resembling a damped pendulum, noting that the resistive force removes energy from the system.
  • This participant also proposes a 2D system representation and mentions Dulac's criterion as a means to analyze the existence of periodic solutions.
  • A later reply acknowledges a need for proper notation in the discussion, indicating a focus on clarity in mathematical representation.

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Participants present multiple competing views and approaches to the problem, with no consensus on the best method to resolve the integral involving Kd or the implications of the damping term on the system's behavior.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of the damping term and its effects on energy dynamics, as well as the mathematical steps involved in the integration process, which remain unresolved.

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I have a non linear system to which I implement a PD controller, but when applying the kinetic-work theorem I can't solve an integral.
The integral is (dx/dt)^2 dt, where x=x(t) so it can't be just x + C.

The non linear system for whom wants to know how did I get to that point is:

d(dx/dt)/dt = sqrt(a^2+b^2)*sin(x+alfa+phi) - Kd*(dx/dt); where alfa = atan(a/b), phi = constant angle, Kd = constant coefficient.
After applying the kinetic work theorem by multiplying both sides by dx/dt I get:

d(dx/dt)/dt *dx/dt = sqrt(a^2+b^2)*sin(x+alfa+phi)*dx/dt - Kd*(dx/dt)*dx/dt ; So, by integration by dt I get to:

1/2*(dx/dt)^2 = - sqrt(a^2+b^2)*cos(x+alfa`phi) - INTEGRAL[(Kd*(dx/dt)^2]dt + C ;

Rearranging terms:

1/2*(dx/dt)^2 + sqrt(a^2+b^2)*cos(x+alfa`phi) = C - INTEGRAL[(Kd*(dx/dt)^2]dt ;And by this without the Kd term i could get the total energy of the system and the velocity at every point but I don't know how to proceed with the Kd term.
I'm sure maybe some of the theory may be wrong explained so I say sorry in advance.
For further explanation, my system doesn't lose energy when Kd = 0 because the total energy would be constant but with Kd term I assume it is like a frictional component that takes the energy out and the system would slowly stop oscillating in the equilibrium point.
 
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Simplifying the constants and shifting the origin of x, your system is \ddot x = A \sin x - k\dot x. This is the equation of motion of a pendulum in a resistive medium. The resistive force -k\dot x effectively removes energy from the pendulum as it does work in moving through the resistive medium.

You can write this as the 2D system <br /> \begin{split}<br /> \dot x &amp;= y \\<br /> \dot y &amp;= A\sin x - ky \end{split} and use Dulac's criterion to show that no non-constant periodic solutions exist.
 
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Yep, sorry I will reupload this post using the proper notation, thank you for the advice
 

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