Non-standard choices for confidence intervals

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The discussion revolves around the construction of confidence intervals for a normally distributed random variable with an unknown mean and known standard deviation. Participants explore the implications of using non-standard methods for creating confidence intervals, particularly focusing on the flexibility of defining confidence levels and the properties of different interval constructions.

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  • One participant questions whether it is permissible to construct a confidence interval using a non-standard approach, specifically proposing an interval that covers the mean with a specified probability, rather than adhering to the traditional symmetric method.
  • Another participant affirms that technically any interval can be considered a confidence interval, but notes that the conventional approach is typically assumed to be symmetric around the sample mean.
  • A different participant emphasizes the distinction between one-sided and two-sided confidence intervals, suggesting that the choice of interval depends on the hypothesis being tested.
  • Some participants acknowledge that while the standard method is generally more useful, alternative constructions may be valid if justified by specific reasons.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of non-standard confidence interval constructions. While some agree that any interval can technically be a confidence interval, others emphasize the conventional expectations surrounding symmetric intervals.

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The discussion highlights the potential limitations of non-standard confidence intervals, including their properties and the assumptions underlying their use. There is no consensus on the implications of using such intervals in practice.

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Suppose I have a normally distributed random variable with unknown mean μ and known standard deviation σ. Based on n samples of the RV, I'd like to compute an estimate of μ and a confidence interval at confidence level P%.

The usual way of doing this would be to use the standard error in the mean: if my sample mean is ##\bar{X}## and P is the total Gaussian probability between standard scores -Z and Z, then a confidence interval ##(\bar{X}- Z\sigma/\sqrt{n}, \bar{X}+ Z\sigma/\sqrt{n})## does the job. That is, if I repeat this sampling process many times then I can expect about P% of these confidence intervals to cover μ.

Am I "allowed" to choose a different procedure for constructing confidence intervals? Suppose my chosen confidence level is 30% and ##\sigma/\sqrt{n} = 1##. There is 30% (or close enough) probability that a given trial will yield a sample mean between ##\mu## and ##\mu + 0.85##, which I computed with the Gaussian CDF. Thus, the interval ##(\bar{X} - 0.85, \bar{X})## will cover μ about 30% of the times I do this n-sample experiment. So, it satisfies the requirement to be a 30% confidence interval.

Is there anything I'm missing about the definition of a confidence interval that doesn't allow me to do this construction? Obviously, the symmetric version based on the the standard error in the mean has nicer properties and does a better job of capturing the reliability of the estimator. If I don't care about that, though, am I free to make this slightly perverse construction instead?
 
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Yes, if someone just says "I want a confidence interval" then any interval will technically do. It is often assumed however when people say confidence interval and are talking about Gaussian random variables that they are talking about the interval which is symmetric about the sample mean.
 
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LastOneStanding said:
Suppose I have a normally distributed random variable with unknown mean μ and known standard deviation σ. Based on n samples of the RV, I'd like to compute an estimate of μ and a confidence interval at confidence level P%.

The usual way of doing this would be to use the standard error in the mean: if my sample mean is ##\bar{X}## and P is the total Gaussian probability between standard scores -Z and Z, then a confidence interval ##(\bar{X}- Z\sigma/\sqrt{n}, \bar{X}+ Z\sigma/\sqrt{n})## does the job. That is, if I repeat this sampling process many times then I can expect about P% of these confidence intervals to cover μ.

Am I "allowed" to choose a different procedure for constructing confidence intervals? Suppose my chosen confidence level is 30% and ##\sigma/\sqrt{n} = 1##. There is 30% (or close enough) probability that a given trial will yield a sample mean between ##\mu## and ##\mu + 0.85##, which I computed with the Gaussian CDF. Thus, the interval ##(\bar{X} - 0.85, \bar{X})## will cover μ about 30% of the times I do this n-sample experiment. So, it satisfies the requirement to be a 30% confidence interval.

Is there anything I'm missing about the definition of a confidence interval that doesn't allow me to do this construction? Obviously, the symmetric version based on the the standard error in the mean has nicer properties and does a better job of capturing the reliability of the estimator. If I don't care about that, though, am I free to make this slightly perverse construction instead?

You may make a confidence interval any way you like. Usually the standard method is most useful, but if you have a good reason to due things otherwise then go ahead.
 
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Office_Shredder said:
Yes, if someone just says "I want a confidence interval" then any interval will technically do. It is often assumed however when people say confidence interval and are talking about Gaussian random variables that they are talking about the interval which is symmetric about the sample mean.

I once taught statistics, and one of the main points was one-sided vs. two-sided confidence intervals. It depends on what hypothesis you are testing.
 

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