Non-traditional student + USAF + EE = what?

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The discussion revolves around the considerations of a non-traditional student contemplating a career path that includes the USAF while pursuing a degree in Electrical Engineering and Applied Mathematics. The scope includes personal reflections on education, military service, and the challenges of maintaining discipline in studies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares their background as a 28-year-old non-traditional student with a strong GPA, considering dual enrollment in a university and contemplating military service for discipline.
  • Another participant suggests prioritizing studies over military service, recommending AFROTC as a less disruptive option than direct enlistment.
  • A participant expresses the desire for military service to provide structure and discipline while also recognizing the importance of education as a priority.
  • There are mentions of age limits for military enlistment and commissioning, with some participants discussing eligibility for various roles within the USAF based on age and educational background.
  • Concerns are raised about the commitment required for military service and whether it aligns with the participant's personal goals and current life stage.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity and implications of military service for discipline and career advancement. There is no consensus on whether military service is the best path for the original poster, as opinions vary on prioritizing education versus military commitment.

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Participants reference specific age requirements for military service and the potential impact of military commitments on academic pursuits, but there is uncertainty regarding the best approach for balancing these aspects.

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This discussion may be useful for non-traditional students considering military service as part of their educational and career paths, as well as those interested in the intersection of academic discipline and military life.

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First of all, sorry if this is posted in the wrong area. I thought that this pertains more to a career than anything (also because I do indeed view my education as the first step of my new career...)


I've found myself in a situation that is quite the opposite of what I'd envisioned for myself ten years ago when graduating HS. I'm 28 years old, no degree, laid off from my job (almost turned career) and studying full-time. I never even seriously considered military service once I found out that my vision would most likely disqualify me from ever being an AF or Naval aviator. (I grew up watching 'Top Gun', wanting to be Maverick, like everybody else my age! lol. At least I ride the motorcycle now, ha!)

I've been in-and-out of college since graduating HS, and am presently enrolled full-time in a local community college. I guess one could say I'm in my second year of studies, although I'm still taking a couple of 100-level classes (GER 112, CHE 112.) All of my english requirement is finished, and I have a few "exploratory" classes on my transcript.

My transcript shows my current GPA to be 3.9 (and on the "Dean's List", if that even means anything at a community college.) I've completed English Comp. I and II, College Algebra and Trigonometry, Calculus I, Intro. Chem, Gen. Chem I, Meteorology I, Micro+Macro Economics, German I; and for this semester I'm enrolled in Calculus II, Gen. Chem. II, and German II. I know that German isn't exactly highly relevant to my study plan, but I'm interested in the language and plan to study it through German III. I'd love to live/work over there someday (Ich habe Deutschland und die Schweiz besucht. Sie sind sehr schön!)

My plan is to dual-enroll in the Colorado School of Mines, taking their freshman Engineering/Design (EPICS) courses starting Summer 2010, with full matriculation by Spring 2011. I would like to double-major in Electrical Engineering and Applied Mathematics.

But recently, and especially after breaking up with my girlfriend, I've been considering the USAF. I've finally convinced myself of my own aptitude to do well in mathematics and school, but I have a weakness in keeping myself on-task. I'm interested in too many things and I find myself constantly distracted by something. In the words of the Governator, "You Lack DISCIPLINE!" Hence, my consideration of the armed forces; if anyone can teach me to stay disciplined, they can. I know that the courseload at CSM is no walk in the park, and while I'm committed to the path, I want to develop myself as best I can for it--and indeed the rest of my life.

I'm just not sure what I should be looking at: the USAF Reserve; should I enlist fully in the USAF, or find an AFROTC program? I'm pretty sure that CSM has an AFROTC program (hosted by CU Boulder.) If I went AFROTC, should I not delay my transfer into CSM and try to get in ASAP? Or, at this point in my life, is it just a waste of time and should I find some civilian method of disciplining myself (like what?)

Is there anybody here that has any advice or insights they'd be willing to share?

Thanks for your time,
JC
 
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At your age, I think you need to make your studies your first priority. If you feel as if you need the military to keep you in line, I'd suggest AFROTC... direct enrollment, even in the reserves, could disrupt your studies.

Military life is quite a commitment to make though, if all you really want is someone to tell you to straighten up and fly right.
 
Having some entity there to inspire me to straighten up and fly right isn't ALL that I would want from a military life, but that's a part of it that I won't deny. I'm all about opening options and creating opportunities for myself, and it seems to me that being an officer in the USAF couldn't hurt with that. I'm inspired, I'm just lacking some of the tools of discipline I think that I'm going to need.

Speaking of studies being a first priority, classes start in five days; so back to the books I go. I'll check in later. Thanks! :)
 
I think the age limit for regular enlistee is 28 and reservist is 32, though I could be remembering wrong; maybe its different for officers. Other than that, there are quite a few good positions in the AF where you could apply an engineering/math degree.
 
I think that I'm still eligible by age, though I am approaching the upper limit and not getting younger.

http://afrotc.com/admissions/requirements-standards/general-requirements/"
Meet the age requirements:
Rated (pilot or combat systems officer) – commissioned before reaching the age of 29
Scholarship applicants – be less than 31 years old as of December 31 of the year you will commission
Tech, non-tech and non-rated – commissioned by age 30 (waiverable up to age 35)

Obviously, if I'm serious about this I'll need to speak with a recruiter, I was just hoping to gain some insights on the situation from any who've "been there, done that" before I escalate my consideration of the option. It seems like a good deal to me though: get my education (almost) paid for, graduate as a commissioned officer in the AF, spend four years of my life applying what I've just learned. That's the crux though: do I want to spend four years of my life in the military? I can't answer that right now.
 
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That's the crux though: do I want to spend four years of my life in the military? I can't answer that right now.

You do see that you *do* have to answer it right now though, right?

The military can be a great way of life for some people. It's an incredible commitment though.
 

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