Non-Uniform Circular Motion - Find Change in time

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The problem involves determining the time it takes for a particle, initially at rest, to travel a quarter of a circular path under non-uniform circular motion, with a given angular acceleration of \(\ddot{\theta} = -3 \cos{\theta}\).

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to integrate acceleration to find velocity and then displacement, with some questioning the necessity of the initial position. There is mention of integrating with respect to time and the possibility of needing to integrate twice.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing various insights and approaches. Some suggest that integrating twice is necessary, while others express uncertainty about the problem's complexity and the need for initial conditions.

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There is a debate about the completeness of the problem statement, particularly regarding the initial conditions and whether they are adequately specified for solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


Find the time it takes for a particle initially at rest to travel around a circle with acceleration [tex]\ddot{\theta} = -3 \cos{\theta}[/tex] to travel 1/4 of the circle.2. The attempt at a solution
[tex]\int_{0}^{{\frac{\pi}{2}}}-3 \cos{\theta}[/tex]

Am I doing this right?
 
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The integral of acceleration is velocity and the integral of velocity is displacement. You also need the initial angular velocity.

ehild
 
So I should do [tex]\int_{V_i}^{V_f}-3 \cos{\theta}[/tex]
 
No, you have to integrate with respect to time, and this problem is not simple at all. Are you sure that you copied it correctly? The initial position is also needed.

ehild
 
I don't think the initial position is required because you are given the initial velocity and the total angular displacement. I might be wrong but it sounds simple to me.

I do agree however that you have to integrate with respect to time because that is the link between acceleration, velocity and displacement.

You actually have to integrate twice
 
Integrating twice makes sense. I could graph the formula twice integrated and find the change in x for a quarter oscillation, correct?

Thanks for the help guys.
 
Oh boy. Does this require Elliptical integration?! If so, kill me now haha
 
I asked already, if you copied the problem correctly.

The usual method to solve such problems that contain only the unknown function and its second derivative with respect to time is to consider the unknown function as independent variable.

The angular velocity is ω=dθ/dt , so d2θ/dt2=dω/dt=(dω/dθ)ω ,

The original equation transforms to

0.5 d(ω2)/dθ =-3cos(θ),

which is easy to integrate, and you can get ω as function of the angle θ, which you should solve somehow but it is ugly any way.

ehild
 
Interesting. Thank you very much for the help. I did copy the question down correctly.
 

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