Nonconservative vs conservative force

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The discussion revolves around the differences between conservative and non-conservative forces, with a focus on understanding their definitions and examples. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, particularly energy conservation and force interactions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore definitions of conservative and non-conservative forces, with attempts to clarify the implications of energy conservation. Questions arise regarding the ability to convert energy in conservative versus non-conservative forces.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing definitions and examples. Some guidance on the characteristics of conservative forces has been offered, while questions about the clarity of definitions and the implications of energy conversion remain open.

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Participants reference textbook definitions and instructor comments, indicating a reliance on external sources for understanding. There is an emphasis on the independence of path in conservative forces, which is being examined in the context of energy conservation.

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What is the difference between two of the forces above?? Can someone please give me an example so that it's easier for me to understand

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A conservative force is a force that conserves mechanical energy, where the work done by that force on an object moving between 2 points is independent of the path taken. That's a pretty unclear definition, so suffice to say that in basic mechanics, gravity forces and spring forces are conservative forces, and every other type force (friction, tension, applied forces, other contact forces, etc.) are non conservative forces.
 
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Your explanation is basically the same as what my book says.. If I am not mistaken my instructor used to say that we can convert back the energy produced/lost by conservative forces but not in non-conservative forces. Is this right?
 
We say that gravity is a conservative field, because there IS independence of path.
the potential energy of an object is mgh, mass X gravitational constant X height above ground. It does NOT matter how the object got there the result is the same.
As the object moves through this field(gravity in this example) sometimes the force works
AGAINST the object, and sometimes the force helps the object (downhill) but if we move in a closed path, the net result is zero. We did NOT profit, and we did not loose anything,
we BROKE EVEN (in layman's terms)
 

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