Nonlinear DE depending on two variables

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a nonlinear differential equation that depends on two variables, specifically a second-order equation with boundary and integral constraints. Participants explore methods for approaching the solution of this equation, which is derived from a calculus of variations problem.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a nonlinear differential equation in the form F(x2, dx1/dt, dx2/dt, d2x1/dt2, d2x2/dt2) = 0, suggesting that solving it will likely result in a dependency between the two variables x1 and x2.
  • Another participant requests the actual equation to assist in the discussion, indicating that having the specific equation would be beneficial for problem-solving.
  • A participant shares the specific form of the equation, which includes terms involving derivatives of x1 and x2, and notes that it arises from a calculus of variations problem with boundary constraints and a Lagrange coefficient.
  • One participant expresses that the problem seems complex and beyond their expertise, while also offering to assist with formatting the equation in LaTeX.
  • Another participant humorously suggests that the problem is simple and encourages the original poster to solve it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the complexity of the problem, with some participants finding it challenging while others suggest it is straightforward. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to solving the equation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes boundary constraints and an integral constraint related to the problem, but the implications of these constraints on the solution process are not fully explored.

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I have a single nonlinear differential equation like

F(x2,dx1/dt,dx2/dt,d2x1/dt2,d2x2/dt2)=0

where x1=x1(t), x2=x2(t)

i.e. a second order non-linear DE with no implicit dependence on x1(t). I suppose solving it results (in general) that one of the variables would be dependent on the other.

How can I proceed with this?
 
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Do you have an actual equation to solve? If so, posting it would probably help
 
Ok. I will use dJxi for dJxi/dtJ, i \in {1,2} and so on. Little bit ugly but anyway, :)

(d1x1)^3 +(d1x2)^2*d1x1 -x2*d1x1*d2x2 +x2*d2x1*d1x2 +L*x2*((d1x1)^2+(d1x2)^2)^(3/2) =0

This comes from a calculus of variations problem, L is a Lagrange coefficient, and the DE describes what the extremals should look like.

I have some boundary constraints, x1(t0)=0, x2(t0)=R, x2(t1)=r, R≥0, r≥0 and an integral constraint that has to hold, that's why I use a Lagrange coefficient. I started a thread regarding this in some other section as well.

This problem was meant to be an exercise before the real problem I am working on, :) I thought it would be easy to solve but no.
 
lol... that's a bit out of my league.

But I can do the latex!

[tex](\frac{dx_1}{dt})^3 + (\frac{dx_2}{dt})^2 \frac{dx_1}{dt} - x_2\frac{dx_1}{dt}\frac{d^2x_2}{dt^2} + x_2\frac{d^2x_1}{dt^2}\frac{dx_2}{dt} + Lx_2( (\frac{dx_1}{dt})^2 + (\frac{dx_2}{dt})^2 )^{3/2} = 0[/tex]
 
NO! It is simple, solve it! :) Thanks.
 

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