Normalization constant for Legendre Polynomials

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The discussion focuses on deriving the normalization constant for Legendre Polynomials through integration techniques. The author presents a relationship involving integrals of the form I_l = I_{l-1} - I_l/(2l) but struggles with the integration by parts method. Another participant suggests a different approach for integration by parts, proposing specific substitutions for u and dv to simplify the integral. This alternative method aims to clarify the derivation and help resolve the author's confusion. The conversation emphasizes the importance of proper integration techniques in solving complex polynomial normalization problems.
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Homework Statement



I am following a derivation of Legendre Polynomials normalization constant.

Homework Equations



<br /> <br /> I_l = \int_{-1}^{1}(1-x^2)^l dx = \int_{-1}^{1}(1-x^2)(1-x^2)^{l-1}dx = I_{l-1} - \int_{-1}^{1}x^2(1-x^2)^{l-1}dx<br /> <br />

The author then gives that we get the following relationship after integrating by parts the last integral:

<br /> <br /> I_l = I_{l-1} - I_l/(2l)<br /> <br />

The Attempt at a Solution



I can't get the last relationship by applying integration by parts. For the integration by parts, I set u = (1-x^2)^l-1 and dv = x^2dx. The u.v term is equal to zero, since the integration goes from -1 to +1. However, for the - \int vdu term I get

<br /> <br /> \int_{-1}^{1} x^3/3(1-x^2)^{l-2}(l-1)(2x)dx<br /> <br />

I really cannot see how to get the final relationship by using this result of the integration by parts.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks
 
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rafaelpol said:
<br /> I_l = \int_{-1}^{1}(1-x^2)^l dx = \int_{-1}^{1}(1-x^2)(1-x^2)^{l-1}dx = I_{l-1} - \int_{-1}^{1}x^2(1-x^2)^{l-1}dx<br />
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Thanks
For the integral:

\displaystyle - \int_{-1}^{1}x^2(1-x^2)^{\ell-1}\,dx

try integration by parts with:

\displaystyle u=x\ \to\ du=dx \ \text{ and }\ dv=-2x(1-x^2)^{\ell-1}\,dx\ \to\ v={{1}\over{\ell}}(1-x^2)^\ell\,.
 
Thank you very much.
 
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