Normalized state vector for bosons, Shankar problem

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The normalized state vector for two identical bosons in states |\phi> and |\psi> with <\phi|\psi> \neq 0 is given by \(\frac{1}{\sqrt{2(1+a)}}(|\psi\phi> + |\phi\psi>)\), where \(C\) is a complex number representing <\phi|\psi>. The calculation involves determining the normalization constant \(A\) through the inner products of the state vectors. The final expression accounts for the overlap between the states, ensuring the vector is properly normalized.

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Homework Statement


Two identical bosons are found to be in states |\phi&gt; and |\psi&gt;. Write down the normalized state vector describing the system when &lt;\phi|\psi&gt;\neq0.

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The normalized state vector for two bosons with &lt;\phi|\psi&gt;=0, using the fact that |\psi&gt;\otimes|\phi&gt;=|\psi\phi&gt;, is:
\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(|\psi\phi&gt;+|\phi\psi&gt;).

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So I thought the new normalization would be to do:
1=A^{2}(&lt;\psi\phi|+&lt;\phi\psi|)(|\psi\phi&gt;+|\phi\psi&gt;)<br /> =A^{2}(&lt;\psi\phi|\psi\phi&gt;+&lt;\phi\psi|\phi\psi&gt;<br /> +&lt;\psi\phi|\phi\psi&gt;+&lt;\phi\psi|\psi\phi&gt;)<br /> =A^{2}(2+C+C^{*})
where C is a complex number. Since in general C=a+bi where a is real and b is imaginary, C+C^{*}=(a+bi)+(a-bi)=2a. Thus, the new, normalized state would be
\frac{1}{\sqrt{2(1+a)}}(|\psi\phi&gt;+|\phi\psi&gt;). I am not very confident with my answer, could someone please help me?
 
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are you sure about your calculations steps not shown?

i'm not 100% sure, but would have gone something like

&lt;\psi\phi|\psi\phi&gt;<br /> = (&lt;\psi|\otimes &lt;\phi|)(|\psi&gt;\otimes|\phi&gt;)<br /> = (&lt;\psi|\phi&gt;&lt;\phi|\psi&gt;)<br /> = &lt;\phi|\psi&gt;^*&lt;\phi|\psi&gt;<br /> = |&lt;\phi|\psi&gt;|^2<br />
 
That makes sense. Thanks a lot!
 

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