Notation Question - Expressing Rate of Change w/o Introducing Variable

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The discussion centers on expressing the rate of change of the function f(x, g(x, y)) with respect to x without introducing a new variable z. Participants suggest using the notation \(\frac{\partial f\big|_{y=g}}{\partial x}\) or \(\frac{\partial (f\big|_{y=g})}{\partial x}\) as alternatives. The consensus indicates that \(\frac{\partial}{\partial x} f(x, g)\) is a suitable representation, which aligns with the chain rule, yielding \(\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} + \frac{\partial f}{\partial g} \frac{\partial g}{\partial x}\).

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Hi All,

I have a question about notation.

Suppose I have an expression:

[tex]f(x,g(x,y))[/tex]

I would like to know how to express (not calculate) the rate of change of the above expression with regards to x.

I can always express it like this:

Let [tex]z(x,y) = f(x,g(x,y))[/tex]. Rate of change is [tex]\frac{{\partial z}}{{\partial x}}[/tex].

But that is awkward. Is there any way to express [tex]\frac{{\partial z}}{{\partial x}}[/tex] without having to introduce a variable z (i.e. using only variables and function names f,g,x,y)?

Thanks,
GZ
 
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what's wrong with partial f/ partial x ?

ahh i see

what you want is

[tex]\frac{\partial f\big|_{y=g}}{\partial x}[/tex]

or if you feel there might be ambiguity about whether the derivative is evaluated at g or f

[tex]\frac{\partial (f\big|_{y=g})}{\partial x}[/tex]

honestly though

[tex]\frac{\partial }{\partial x} f(x,g)[/tex] is probably best
 
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Hi ice109,

Thank you for your response.

What I really want is the quantity [tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial x}=\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}+\frac{\partial f}{\partial g}\frac{\partial g}{\partial x}[/tex].

[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}[/tex] does not reflect the second term above.

But do I have to introduce a new variable z in order to express this clearly? Or is there a better way?


I have never see the notation [tex]\frac{\partial}{\partial x} f(x,g)[/tex] before. Does it equal [tex]\frac{{\partial f}}{{\partial x}} +\frac{\partial f}{\partial g}\frac{\partial g}{\partial x}[/tex]?

Thanks,
gz
 
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