Nth Order Differential Equations

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The discussion centers on the structure of Nth order differential equations, specifically the conjecture that higher-order equations follow a pattern where each order introduces an additional term involving powers of x. The participants clarify that the general solutions for first, second, and third-order ordinary differential equations (ODEs) involve arbitrary constants and do not necessarily include explicit terms like x or x^2. The general form for an Nth order ODE is established as f(x, y, y', y'', ..., y^{(n)})= 0, emphasizing that the presence of terms with x is not a defining characteristic of these equations.

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We know that there are a few forms for 1st order differential equations. Second-order differential equations have an extra term with an [itex]x[/itex] in it. My conjecture is that third-order differential equations have another extra term with an [itex]x^2[/itex] in it. A friend of mine agrees with this. Is this true and can we following the same pattern for higher order differential equations? If so, is there a proof to this?

Thanks in advance! :)
 
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ahaanomegas said:
We know that there are a few forms for 1st order differential equations. Second-order differential equations have an extra term with an [itex]x[/itex] in it. My conjecture is that third-order differential equations have another extra term with an [itex]x^2[/itex] in it. A friend of mine agrees with this. Is this true and can we following the same pattern for higher order differential equations? If so, is there a proof to this?

Thanks in advance! :)

What do you mean in writing "We know that there are a few forms for 1st order differential equations" ?
This seens rather ambiguous. What kind of ODE are you talking about ?
The general solution of a first order ODE is on the form f(c,x) where c is an arbitrary constant. The form c*f(x) is not the general case : it is only true in the case of linear ODE.
The general solution of a second order ODE is on the form f(c1,c2;x) where c1 and c2 are arbitrary constants. The form c1*f1(x)+c2*f2(x) is not the general case : it is only true in the case of linear ODE.
The general solution of a third order ODE is on the form f(c1,c2,c3;x) where c1, c2, c3 are arbitrary constants.
etc.
 
ahaanomegas said:
We know that there are a few forms for 1st order differential equations. Second-order differential equations have an extra term with an [itex]x[/itex] in it. My conjecture is that third-order differential equations have another extra term with an [itex]x^2[/itex] in it. A friend of mine agrees with this. Is this true and can we following the same pattern for higher order differential equations? If so, is there a proof to this?

Thanks in advance! :)
The most general way of writing a first order differential equation is f(x, y, y')= 0.
The most general way of writing a second order differential equation is f(x, y, y', y'')= 0.
The most general way of writing a differential equation of order n is [itex]f(x, y, y', y'', ..., y^{(n)})= 0[/itex]

I have no idea what you mean by "an extra term with and x in it" nor "another extra term with an [itex]x^2[/itex] in it". The second order equation y''= y has no explicit "x" at all.
 

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