Number of jordan blocks in Jordan decomposition

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The discussion centers on the Jordan decomposition of matrices, specifically the identification of Jordan blocks in given matrices. It confirms that the dimension of the kernel, denoted as ker(A-λI), directly correlates to the number of Jordan blocks associated with the eigenvalue λ. Furthermore, the size of the largest Jordan block is determined by the equality dim(ker(A-λI)^n) = dim(ker(A-λI)^(n+1)). The conversation also highlights the necessity of additional information or algorithms to distinguish between different Jordan block configurations in specific matrices.

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Given a matrix $$A$$. Is it possible to have a Jordan block form like:

$$\begin{pmatrix}
\lambda & 1 & 0 & 0\\
0 & \lambda & 0 & 0 \\
0 & 0 & \lambda & 1\\
0 & 0 & 0 & \lambda\\
\end{pmatrix}$$

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The matrix you named above has exactly that jordan canonical form. Sooooooo...yes.
 
Then I have another question.

The dimension of ker(A-λI) is the number of Jordan blocks associated to λ. And n, where n is given by dim(ker(A-λI)^n)=dim(ker(A-λI)^(n+1)) is the size of the largest Jordan block. The total size is dim(ker(A-λI).

So, how do we know which form is the correct one in the following case?

$$\begin{pmatrix}
\lambda & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
0 & \lambda & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 0 & \lambda & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 0 &\lambda & 0 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 &\lambda & 1 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 &0& \lambda & 1\\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & \lambda\\
\end{pmatrix}$$

or

$$\begin{pmatrix}
\lambda & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
0 & \lambda & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 0 & \lambda & 1 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 0 &\lambda & 0 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 &\lambda & 1 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 &0& \lambda & 1\\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & \lambda\\
\end{pmatrix}$$

If there isn't enough information, what else do I need?
 
I mean there are algorithms to turn any given matrix into its Jordan canonical form, so if you have a specific matrix, then there is always a way to tell the difference. To distinguish between the above cases you can always check that the matrices obtained by restricting the domain to a certain subspace have the desired block form. I have no idea if there are better ways of checking beyond these basic tricks, however, since I rarely use canonical forms.
 

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