Number of Moderator Positions

[Borg]

I'll add my voice to the list of people who disagree with you Infinitarian. This site is a quality site because of the Moderators and all of the work that they do. I also got whacked upside the head on one of my first posts but, I didn't take it as an insult or a reason to rant. I took it as a learning opportunity to understand the forum better before posting.

 

[harrylin]

Just a side note:

[..]
I find it pathetic and utterly repugnant that mass persecution over a long period is being compared to having rules on an Internet forum. You are denigrating the suffering and struggle of countless people when you make such melodramatic and crass comments. [..]

That's not what "excommunication" means. ;-)

Excommunication is the exclusion of a member from contact (communication) with the group, so that his/her opinions will not be heard anymore. That could create a social problem for that person if there are no serious alternative groups. However there are a few serious alternatives to physicsforums - and many more crappy uncensored ones.

 

[Ryan_m_b]

Just a side note:

That's not what "excommunication" means. ;-)

Excommunication is the exclusion of a member from contact (communication) with the group, so that his/her opinions will not be heard anymore. That could create a social problem for that person if there are no serious alternative groups.

I'm well aware of what excommunication means and I still stand by what I said. Especially as some excomunications throughout history in small settlements would be accompanied by a public shaming and significant social problems afterwards.

JustHowever there are a few serious alternatives to physicsforums - and many more crappy uncensored ones.

You're not wrong there

 

[phinds]

I'm well aware of what excommunication means and I still stand by what I said. Especially as some excomunications throughout history in small settlements would be accompanied by a public shaming and significant social problems afterwards.

You're not wrong there

+1 on both of those statements.

 

[phinds]

What if Evo was the lumpy salmon though?

I love salmon but in Evo's case would spare her being devoured, which is what I normally do with salmon.

 

[russ_watters]

It is worth noting that we have far more lurkers than members and they can get a lot from PF without joining. That's not a common feature of religions, particularly Catholicism (not picking on Catholicism per se, that's just the main historical reference).

 

[russ_watters]

Just a side note:

That's not what "excommunication" means. ;-)

Excommunication is the exclusion of a member from contact (communication) with the group, so that his/her opinions will not be heard anymore. That could create a social problem for that person if there are no serious alternative groups. However there are a few serious alternatives to physicsforums - and many more crappy uncensored ones.

That's not right either: In most religions, people are not allowed to have opinions. In the middle ages Catholic church, they weren't even allowed access to source material for the religion to help themselves to the knowledge!

 

[OmCheeto]

All this talk about "excommunication" made me look it up in wiki:

In Matthew 18:15-17 Jesus says that an offended Christian should first draw the offender's fault to the offender's attention privately¹; then, if the offender refuses to listen, to bring one or two others², that there may be more than a single witness to the charge; next, if the offender still refuses to listen, to bring the matter before the church, and if the offender refuses to listen to the church, to treat the offender as "a Gentile and a tax collector"³.

1. Mentor sends poster a "Private Message", telling them of an offense.
2. Mentors meet in mentor-land to discuss offender.
3. Offender is banned!

hmmm...

Actually, these are the exact steps taken where I work when someone breaks a rule, and continues to break them.

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Wraps humor badge around head to soften the blow of the impending lumpy salmon thwap, wielded by the almighty. Whom I will still praise, and give thanks, that I should be worthy of such an honor.

 

[micromass]

All this talk about "excommunication" made me look it up in wiki:



1. Mentor sends poster a "Private Message", telling them of an offense.
2. Mentors meet in mentor-land to discuss offender.
3. Offender is banned!

hmmm...

Actually, these are the exact steps taken where I work when someone breaks a rule, and continues to break them.

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Wraps humor badge around head to soften the blow of the impending lumpy salmon thwap, wielded by the almighty. Whom I will still praise, and give thanks, that I should be worthy of such an honor.

The mentors will now retreat to discuss this post privately...

 

[Borg]

1. Mentor sends poster a "Private Message", telling them of an offense.
2. Mentors meet in mentor-land to discuss offender.
3. Offender is banned!

The mentors will now retreat to discuss this post privately...

Notices that there are no steps for poster to correct behavior...

 

[micromass]

Notices that there are no steps for poster to correct behavior...

We are now discussing two offenders...

 

[Evo]

To be honest, the member posted a banned topic, he was sent a zero point "warning" that the topic was banned. He did not get an infraction, nothing, not being infracted, he was not at risk of any mentor action, it was just a "heads up" and that's what caused his outburst. He never contacted the mentor with any questions, he basically appeared to have never read any of the forum rules, but that is our fault for having rules.

 

[Drakkith]

We are now discussing two offenders...

Beat them with the Ban Hammer until their fingers can no longer press the keys!

 

[OmCheeto]

The mentors will now retreat to discuss this post privately...

It has begun...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4WJlLNIsyY​

 

[Borg]

Beat them with the Ban Hammer until their fingers can no longer press the keys!

What was this thread about again? Oh, never mind...

 

[OmCheeto]

Beat them with the Ban Hammer until their fingers can no longer press the keys!

And if you and berkeman would please stop mentioning helicopters, I will stop sharing my flashbacks.

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Bang bang Evo's Ban Hammer came down on their hands, doop, de, doo, doop...
Sung of course to the tune of Maxwell's Silver Hammer

 

[Drakkith]

Ah, back before the universe condensed into Technicolor...it must have been depressing with everything always so monochrome.

 

[OmCheeto]

To be honest, the member posted a banned topic, he was sent a zero point "warning" that the topic was banned. He did not get an infraction, nothing, not being infracted, he was not at risk of any mentor action, it was just a "heads up" and that's what caused his outburst. He never contacted the mentor with any questions, he basically appeared to have never read any of the forum rules, but that is our fault for having rules.

I was quite serious the other day when I praised Greg's Super Moderator Guide. I was going to start my own thread in FF&A to the effect that that guide should be read before you start complaining.

After some years, one can interpolate the rules and structure of the forum without ever having read them. (I'm a man. I never read the instruction manual...) I was amazed though that this whole forum is still sticking to an apparently well thought out plan.

Perhaps you could institute a multi-phased set of rules for newbies:

for those with severe ADD (or men in general)
1. Play nice or Die

for those with short attention spans
2. 10 basic rules of the forum...

1. Play nice or Die
2. No swearing
3. No spam
4. No trolling
5. No fighting(except in the P&WA forum)
6. No fighting(unless it is about magnets. even Feynman wouldn't explain them.)
7. No, um, what are the rules?
8. No banned topics(hyperlink to list)
9. No crackpottery(hyperlink to definition)
10. Play nice or Die​

for the wannabelawyers
3. Full set of rules...(TLDR)

for the curious
4. Reference the S.M.G. as a guide to who and what these demi-gods called mentors are, where they come from, why they are necessary.

for anyone 16 and older
5. Tell people a 16 year old started this forum, and ask what they did when they were 16, besides pick their nose.

6. etc. etc. etc.

 

[AlephZero]

Evo can be the Lord High Executioner. (Or should that be Lady High Executioner?)

She can have any part she wants, except Katisha...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNF3DHDRDG0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-H700B2Cxs

 

[OmCheeto]

She can have any part she wants, except Katisha...

I'm never quite sure about where and when to reveal my level of ignorance of things. At 50+, I've heard of the Mikado at least 1000 times.

But, I've never known what it was, where it was from, nor from what time it came.

Thank you, AlephZero.

I appreciate everything I can get.

Wow.

One would not think such a voice could be humanly possible.

More opera please.

 

[berkeman]

I was quite serious the other day when I praised Greg's Super Moderator Guide. I was going to start my own thread in FF&A to the effect that that guide should be read before you start complaining.

After some years, one can interpolate the rules and structure of the forum without ever having read them. (I'm a man. I never read the instruction manual...) I was amazed though that this whole forum is still sticking to an apparently well thought out plan.

Perhaps you could institute a multi-phased set of rules for newbies:

for those with severe ADD (or men in general)
1. Play nice or Die

for those with short attention spans
2. 10 basic rules of the forum...

1. Play nice or Die
2. No swearing
3. No spam
4. No trolling
5. No fighting(except in the P&WA forum)
6. No fighting(unless it is about magnets. even Feynman wouldn't explain them.)
7. No, um, what are the rules?
8. No banned topics(hyperlink to list)
9. No crackpottery(hyperlink to definition)
10. Play nice or Die​

for the wannabelawyers
3. Full set of rules...(TLDR)

for the curious
4. Reference the S.M.G. as a guide to who and what these demi-gods called mentors are, where they come from, why they are necessary.

for anyone 16 and older
5. Tell people a 16 year old started this forum, and ask what they did when they were 16, besides pick their nose.

6. etc. etc. etc.

You left out the Homework Help admonitions. That seems like about half of what we Mentors deal with daily...

 

[OmCheeto]

You left out the Homework Help admonitions. That seems like about half of what we Mentors deal with daily...

Really? That's a surprise. Are people solving other peoples homework? Maybe I should sneak a problem in. I have a poly-dimensional mathematical problem that I don't even know how to write down, much less solve.

 

[jtbell]

No, the "Homework Help admonitions" are for newcomers who haven't found the HH forums yet and start out by posting homework exercises in the other forums. You probably don't see very many of them because we move most of them pretty quickly.

 

[harrylin]

No. He owns this place.

Holy Moses! The SMG is an excellent read. (saved to desktop!) Good job Greg. Did you make all that up yourself?
[..]

Hmm... probably - and regretfully - the following rule is applied here:

If there’s a dispute between a member and a moderator, side slightly with the moderator. Of course, there are always exceptions to this rule, but try to follow it as much as possible. -http://www.sitepoint.com/super-moderator-guide/

 

[tiny-tim]

I'm never quite sure about where and when to reveal my level of ignorance of things. At 50+, I've heard of the Mikado at least 1000 times.

But, I've never known what it was, where it was from, nor from what time it came.

to see how the Mikado was created, watch Topsy-Turvy

 

[OmCheeto]

to see how the Mikado was created, watch Topsy-Turvy

Bookmarked, to the bar.

Thank you.

 

[drizzle]

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[off topic]
Just out of curiosity, who's the guy next to you... and how ol are you?
[/off topic]

 

[Borek]

[off topic]
Just out of curiosity, who's the guy next to you...
[/off topic]

Gomer Pyle (actually Leonard Lawrence).

 

[OmCheeto]

[off topic]
Just out of curiosity, who's the guy next to you... and how ol are you?
[/off topic]

Borek got his initials right, but backwards. His initials are P.G. He talked me into joining the Navy. We'd been best friends since 7th grade. We were both 18 in this picture.

I decided that our friendship needed some slowing down about 4 years later, when he tried to kill me*.

*He gave me a ride on the back of his brand new Harley Davidson on a cold drizzly November night up on Whidbey Island. A drunk lady pulled out in front of us, and we hit her @ ~55 mph. I lost my big toe nail. Pat spent 6 months in the hospital. He used the insurance settlement money to buy a truck, which he totaled a few months later. He eventually got married, still rides Harley style motorcycles, and has become what I would refer to as an evangelical christian. I on the other hand, remain single, have had an aversion to motorcycles since the incident, and more than anything else, consider myself an evangelical scientist and part-time bohemian. I doubt our paths shall cross again. Except perhaps at high school reunions. We do have fun reminiscing how we didn't die.

 

[berkeman]

have had an aversion to motorcycles since the incident

Well, that's pretty understandable. Sounds like your friend needs some riding/driving lessons. Glad that all you lost was a toenail.