Number theory LMC and GCF equation.

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around an equation involving the least common multiple (LCM) and greatest common factor (GCF) of two numbers, specifically the equation 2Lcm(x,y) - 5gcf(x,y) = 7. Participants are tasked with finding possible values for T, defined as gcf(x,y), and solving the equation in the context of natural numbers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationships between LCM and GCF, questioning the transformations made to the original equation. There are discussions about modular equivalences and the implications of divisibility. Some participants suggest examining the common factors of LCM and GCF, while others raise questions about the correctness of previous statements and the implications of certain assumptions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's reasoning and questioning assumptions. There is a focus on clarifying the relationships between the variables involved, particularly regarding divisibility and the properties of LCM and GCF. No consensus has been reached, but several productive lines of inquiry are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through potential misunderstandings regarding the definitions and relationships of LCM and GCF, as well as the implications of the equation provided. There is an ongoing examination of what values T can take based on the properties of LCM and GCF.

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Homework Statement



(E) : 2Lcm(x,y)-5gcf(x,y0=7

Homework Equations



1- Find the possible values of the the number T=gcf(x,y)

2- Solve in N^2 the equation (E).

The Attempt at a Solution



For number 1 i transformed the equation and I found an equivalence of 2T Ξ 7(mod 5gcf(x,y) is that correct, and how can i proceed.
 
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That would not be correct.
It seems you mixed up T and Lcm.

It would be correct that:
5T Ξ -7(mod 2Lcm(x,y))
and also that:
5T Ξ -7(mod 2)
5T Ξ -7(mod Lcm(x,y))

As an extra observation, which number would have to divide the left hand side and therefore also the right hand side?
 
I like Serena said:
That would not be correct.
It seems you mixed up T and Lcm.

It would be correct that:
5T Ξ -7(mod 2Lcm(x,y))
and also that:
5T Ξ -7(mod 2)
5T Ξ -7(mod Lcm(x,y))

As an extra observation, which number would have to divide the left hand side and therefore also the right hand side?

Is that number 1?
 
Of course 1, but there is also another number.
More importantly, what do Lcm and Gcf have in common?
 
I like Serena said:
Of course 1, but there is also another number.
More importantly, what do Lcm and Gcf have in common?

LCM*GCF=x*y

and if we make into a form of an equation we get that 5t+7=lcm(x,y)*k where k is a n integer.
 
mtayab1994 said:
LCM*GCF=x*y

Yes.
Can you say more?

and if we make into a form of an equation we get that 5t+7=lcm(x,y)*k where k is a n integer.

Hmm, that is not true.
Where did the "2" go?
 
I like Serena said:
Yes.
Can you say more?

Yes: gcd(x,y) divides lcm(x,y) Right?
 
Yep. So...
 
I like Serena said:
Yep. So...

So 2 divides 5T? I'm not quite sure can you help me a little bit more?
 
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Uhh... no... that is not true either. :confused:

Does T divide the left hand side?
 
  • #11
I like Serena said:
Uhh... no... that is not true either. :confused:

Does T divide the left hand side?

yes it does so I'm guessing it has to divide -7+2klcm(x,y) right??
 
  • #12
Uhh... yes...?
 
  • #13
I like Serena said:
Uhh... yes...?

So... how can i find the values of T then??
 
  • #14
So the Values of T are those that divide lcm(x,y)??
 
  • #15
mtayab1994 said:
Yes: gcd(x,y) divides lcm(x,y) Right?

So...
Does gcd(x,y) divide 2*lcm(x,y)?
Does gcd(x,y) divide 5*gcd(x,y)?
Does gcd(x,y) divide 2*lcm(x,y) - 5*gcd(x,y)?
 

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