Number Theory Proofs: Square Numbers and Irrational Roots

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around number theory proofs concerning square numbers and irrational roots. The original poster presents three exercises related to the properties of square numbers and the nature of irrational numbers, specifically involving prime factorization and the square root of 10.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various approaches to proving the properties of square numbers, including proof by contradiction. Questions arise regarding the implications of prime factorization and the rationality of square roots.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered hints and guidance on the proofs, particularly regarding the relationship between prime factor exponents and perfect squares. There is an ongoing exploration of the reasoning behind the proofs, with some participants expressing confidence in their understanding while others seek further clarification.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of formalizing their proofs and the need for clarity in notation. The discussion also highlights the assumption that the square root of 10 is irrational, which is relevant to the third exercise.

randommacuser
Messages
23
Reaction score
0
Hey all, I've got a few number theory exercises that are troubling me.

1. Prove a positive integer s is a square if and only if each of the exponents in its prime factorization is even.

2. Let c,d be positive, relatively prime integers. Prove that if cd is a square, c and d are squares.

3. Show that for four integers a,b,c,d, if a+b*sqrt(10)=c+d*sqrt(10), then a=c and b=d.

Hopefully someone can give me a start here. Thanks!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
What have you tried doing?
 
HINT 1: Could a number possibly be a perfect square if any of its prime factors occur an odd number of times?

HINT 2: See Hint 1.

HINT 3: Is [itex]\sqrt {10}[/itex] rational?
 
I'm attempting a proof by contradiction on #1, along the lines of what Tide is hinting at. I just don't know how to show it formally.

And I know sqrt(10) is not rational, I'm just not sure how to use that yet.
 
Can you show that if the exponents on the prime factorization of a positive number are even, then the number is a perfect square?
 
Sure, that should be the easier case. How about the other way around?
 
Well why don't you actually do that, so that we can see.

If you do understand that then the other way around is not much harder. If a number is a perfect square then it can be written as k * k, and what can you do with each of the k's?
 
Yeah, I just had another look at #1 and it's not that difficult. Silly me...

And once I saw the reasoning #2 followed fairly easily, though I haven't quite figured out the notation.

So if anyone has suggestions for #3, I'd appreciate it!
 
Well, it's crude, but I think I have #3 as well. Thanks for all the hints, guys. If anyone is interested in how I proved any of these questions, just ask and I will try to explain as best I can.
 
  • #10
randommacuser said:
I'm attempting a proof by contradiction on #1, along the lines of what Tide is hinting at. I just don't know how to show it formally.

And I know sqrt(10) is not rational, I'm just not sure how to use that yet.

It's really quite straightforward. Rearrange your equation to have all the rational terms on one side and all the irraitional ones on the other. Under what conditions is it possible for those two quantities be equal?
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
4K
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
6K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K