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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the role of carbohydrates and fats in diets, particularly for athletes and those looking to lose weight. Participants explore the importance of macronutrient composition in relation to energy conversion, satiety, and dietary strategies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that carbohydrates are crucial for athletes because they convert to usable energy more quickly than fats, though the truth of this claim is questioned.
  • There is a query about the necessity of tracking fat intake in diets, with some wondering if it is essential for weight loss or if it can be minimized.
  • One participant mentions medical conditions like dyslipidemias and metabolic syndrome as reasons for monitoring fat intake.
  • Another participant shares personal experience indicating that high-fat foods can be more satisfying, potentially leading to lower overall calorie consumption.
  • There is a mention of the practicality of high-carb diets for athletes who require large caloric intakes, citing Olympic swimmers as an example.
  • Some participants express differing views on the effectiveness of various dietary approaches, such as the South Beach diet.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the importance of carbohydrates versus fats in diets, particularly for athletes versus those simply trying to lose weight. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views present.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various sources and personal experiences, but there are no settled conclusions regarding the optimal balance of macronutrients for different dietary goals.

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I HAS QUESTION! :D

I've always heard that when you're an athlete or someone who does a lot of exercising, it's important to eat foods that are high in carbohydrates. I hear that it's because the body is capable of converting carbohydrates into useable energy quicker than it can fat (is this true even?). So I got to thinking about what exactly the fat content in food is for in regards to diets. I mean, when I think of someone dieting or diet myself, it seems like calories are all you really need to keep track of (at least in terms of losing weight, I know you obviously need to have your vitamins and minerals and protein). So why do people keep track of their fat intake as well? Is it unnecessary or is there a reason that dieters want to minimize their fat intake along with their caloric intake?
 
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Pengwuino said:
I've always heard that when you're an athlete or someone who does a lot of exercising, it's important to eat foods that are high in carbohydrates. I hear that it's because the body is capable of converting carbohydrates into useable energy quicker than it can fat (is this true even?).

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/carbohydrate-loading/MY00223
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index
http://www.health.arizona.edu/health_topics/nutrition/general/gycemicindex.htm

Pengwuino said:
So why do people keep track of their fat intake as well? Is it unnecessary or is there a reason that dieters want to minimize their fat intake along with their caloric intake?

http://www.ehow.com/how_2307097_turn-fat-muscle.html :smile:

So if you want to gain muscle, you must eat protein.

Protein however can be converted to fat.

http://www.elmhurst.edu/~chm/vchembook/630proteinmet.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11255140
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org/howto/pfandbs-2.html
 
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Pengwuino said:
So why do people keep track of their fat intake as well? Is it unnecessary or is there a reason that dieters want to minimize their fat intake along with their caloric intake?

Dyslipidemias, hyperlipidemias, metabolic syndrome
 
Okay so it seems like controlling a medical condition or preventing one is important. What if you were just dieting to lose weight in general?
 
My personal experience has been that if you eat a certain number of calories, and in one case the food is high in carbs and in the second case the food is high in fat, the food that is high in fat is more satisfying and you eat less later on. So I've found that diets like South Beach, where you carefully control the number of carbs, really work.

As far as athletes, if you're exercising really hard, and need to eat a large number of calories (I've read that Olympic swimmers eat 12,000 calories per day), it's just easier to eat that much when it is high in carbs, and it digests faster so you don't throw up(sorry) during your next workout. Personally, I've been on long bicycle trips where I was eating ~5000 calories per day, and I just ate whatever I wanted, just more of it. High fat meals never caused me a problem.
 
I see Olympic swimmers are causing global warming!
 

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