Objective Opinion: Is It An Oxymoron?

  • Thread starter Thread starter understand.
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around whether the phrase "objective opinion" constitutes an oxymoron, exploring the nature of opinions and their relationship to objectivity and subjectivity. Participants examine the definitions of objective and subjective issues, and how these concepts apply to opinions in various contexts.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that opinions are inherently subjective, suggesting that an opinion cannot be objective without contradicting its definition.
  • Others propose that the terms "objective" and "subjective" describe the subject matter rather than the opinion itself, with objective issues being independent of personal beliefs.
  • A participant provides examples to illustrate the distinction, such as the difference between subjective preferences (e.g., music taste) and objective facts (e.g., the existence of a train).
  • There is a suggestion that the term "opinion" may be used to describe beliefs about objective reality, leading to potential confusion regarding its meaning.
  • One participant expresses a belief that stating "it's my opinion that aliens exist" is grammatically incorrect, framing it as a factual matter instead.
  • Another participant notes the phrase "in my objective opinion" as a careless figure of speech, comparing it to other common misuses of language.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on whether "objective opinion" is an oxymoron, with multiple competing views on the definitions and implications of opinions in relation to objectivity and subjectivity.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reveals limitations in the definitions of "opinion," "objective," and "subjective," as well as the potential for ambiguity in language usage. Participants do not resolve these ambiguities.

understand.
Messages
13
Reaction score
0
Is "objective opinion" an oxymoron? I've always thought of opinions as being subjective. Thoughts?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I don't think it's the opinion that can be either objective or subjective, but these terms instead describe the type of subject matter that is discussed.

Objective issues are issues where the reality is whatever it is, regardless of whether we know about it, or whether we think about it. For example, I may think that no train is coming, so I walk across the railroad tracks, but then a train runs me over -- that means it was the objective truth that the train was coming, despite my incorrect belief to the contrary.

Subjective issues are issues where there is no external truth that is independent of the mind; for example, the music of the Beatles sounds better than the music of the Rolling Stones.
 
mikelepore said:
I don't think it's the opinion that can be either objective or subjective, but these terms instead describe the type of subject matter that is discussed.

Objective issues are issues where the reality is whatever it is, regardless of whether we know about it, or whether we think about it. For example, I may think that no train is coming, so I walk across the railroad tracks, but then a train runs me over -- that means it was the objective truth that the train was coming, despite my incorrect belief to the contrary.

Subjective issues are issues where there is no external truth that is independent of the mind; for example, the music of the Beatles sounds better than the music of the Rolling Stones.

I agree, this was what I've always thought an opinion was. But people use it in many other ways, and in a discussion, it gets pretty annoying. "Ice cream is good" is what I would consider an opinion because it's subjective. "I am fifty meters tall" is fact because it's objective, even though the fact could be true or false.

BUT, people have used the word, "opinion", to describe what they think is true about objective reality. For example, "it's my opinion that aliens exist" is something that I've heard someone say. It seems like the word, "opinion", is used as though to mean from connotation, "you cannot question my claim", referring to the definition of opinion as being subjective, but at the same time making an objective claim about aliens.

Does "opinion" have a second meaning that is synonymous with belief? If that is so, then it would be rather confusing. People use the word "opinion" to describe their beliefs in objective reality.
 
I would consider it bad grammar to say, "It's my opinion that aliens exist", because, as you point out, it's a factual matter. However, I would think it sounds right to describe the evaluation process: "It's my opinion that the case for the existence of aliens is persuasive." The latter is closer to describing one's own state of mind -- there is something in my mind that causes me to have a predisposition toward making the assertion that aliens exist.
 
understand. said:
Is "objective opinion" an oxymoron? I've always thought of opinions as being subjective. Thoughts?

Yes, I think so. An opinion is something one forms based on their knowledge, judgement, and personal experiences. You can't have an opinion if you ignore these things. Othewise it would be a fact, not an opinion.

Im of the thought that nothing is absolute, nor objective.
 
I have heard some people say, "In my objective opinion...", but that appears to be a careless figure of speech. I put it in the same category as the use of "literally" to mean "figuratively" ("The land literally flowed with milk and honey..." -- Louisa May Alcott, in Little Women (source). Similarly, the expression "I could care less." I try to speak more precisely.
 

Similar threads

Replies
16
Views
3K
  • Poll Poll
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 33 ·
2
Replies
33
Views
3K
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 43 ·
2
Replies
43
Views
7K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K