Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the shape of celestial bodies, specifically the concept of an oblate ellipsoid and its implications for planetary stability and behavior. Participants explore the theoretical possibility of planets having different axis lengths and the consequences of such shapes, including potential tumbling and stability issues.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- Some participants assert that Earth is an oblate spheroid, which is a specific type of ellipsoid, and discuss its stability due to the polar radius being less than the equatorial radius.
- Others propose that if a planet were to have three different values for its axes, it would likely collapse under its own weight into a near-spherical shape, though smaller bodies like asteroids might not follow this rule.
- There is mention of the tennis racket theorem, which relates to the tumbling of rigid bodies with differing moments of inertia, suggesting that such dynamics could apply to celestial bodies as well.
- One participant notes that tidal forces could deform bodies into prolate ellipsoids, with potential consequences similar to those of excessive spin, including disintegration if self-cohesion forces are exceeded.
- Another participant references neutron stars and their rotational limits, indicating that extreme rotation can lead to asymmetrical shapes and gravitational wave radiation.
- Haumea is cited as an example of a celestial body with three different axes that remains in hydrostatic equilibrium due to its rapid rotation, challenging the idea that larger bodies cannot maintain such shapes.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the feasibility of planets having three distinct axis lengths, with some arguing it is impossible for larger bodies while others provide counterexamples. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of oblate versus prolate shapes and the conditions under which tumbling may occur.
Contextual Notes
There are limitations regarding the definitions of oblate and prolate shapes, as well as the conditions under which celestial bodies maintain stability. The discussion also touches on unresolved mathematical aspects related to the shapes of celestial bodies.