One-point compactification of space of matrices with positive trace

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The discussion revolves around the one-point compactification of the space of matrices with non-negative trace, particularly in the context of its implications for cosmological theories, such as those proposed by Hawking and Penrose regarding the beginning of the universe. Participants explore the topology of this space and its mathematical properties, including continuity and compactness.

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  • One participant inquires about the one-point compactification of matrices with non-negative trace and its relation to a cosmological argument.
  • Another participant suggests referencing specific papers and textbooks to clarify the mathematical concepts involved.
  • A suggestion is made to consider a more precise version of the singularity theorem than that presented by Hawking and Penrose.
  • Concerns are raised about the restrictive nature of the singularity theorem in certain texts and the implications for the argument being discussed.
  • Discussion includes the topology imposed on the space of matrices, referencing norms and the basis for a topological space.
  • One participant draws an analogy between the Alexandroff compactification and the Riemann sphere, questioning the regularity conditions needed for the compactification to hold.
  • Another participant notes that the continuity of the map from the space of symmetric matrices to the point q depends on the trace being non-negative, suggesting this is crucial for the compactification.
  • It is proposed that the space of matrices with non-negative trace is a partition of a 6-dimensional Euclidean space, which is necessary for the Alexandroff extension to be valid.
  • Discussion touches on how the properties of the matrices, such as symmetry and trace, influence the continuity and compactness of the mapping to q.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and implications of the trace condition for continuity and compactification. There is no consensus on the best approach to the problem or the interpretations of the relevant mathematical frameworks.

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Participants reference various mathematical concepts and theorems, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the topology of the matrix space and the implications of the trace conditions. The discussion remains open to interpretation and further exploration.

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one-point compactification of space of matrices with non-negative trace

Hi I'm a physicist and my question is a bit text-bookey but it is also part of the proof that the universe had a beginning...so could I ask anyway...You got q which is a continuous function of a 3 by 3 matrix where if any component of the matrix is very large then q is close to the point x, then with the trace of the matrix greater than or equal to zero, the one-point compactification of this space of matrices, where the point at infinity is mapped to x, is compact...please explain. Thanks.
 
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The book is "HAWKING ON THE BIG BANG AND BLACKHOLES", chapter 1, pg.20. Actually I'm going to sleep now...must look at the stuff you gave tomorrow..thanks for your response julian.
 
My suggestion would be to give up on Hawking and Penrose sketch of the theorem and look a more precise version, like in

Relativity and Singularities - A Short Introduction for Mathematicians
Jose Natario

http://arxiv.org/abs/math/0603190

and also Hawking and Ellis monograph cited thereof.
 


I think in "Relativity and Singularities - A Short Introduction for Mathematicians" they are considering a more restrictive form of the singularity theorem and as such don't need to consider this argument of Penrose and Hawking.

As for the topology imposed on the matrices...Penrose Hawking do use the Schwarz's inequality where they define the norm to be || U || = [tr (U^tU)]^{1/2}. And obviously the open balls defined by the norm could be a basis for a topological space...

This Alexandroff thing...it's like how you get the Riemann sphere from the non-compact plane + point at infinity. I'm guessing in general you need some kind of regularity at 'infinity' for the Alexandroff thing to work? I'm thinking that the q of Penrose and Hawking tends to x makes the compactification possibly.

Anyway, version of the Penrose Hawking argument is also in "The large scale structure of space-time", pages 98-99 but doesn't mention one-point compactification although I can see why it would tie in with a compactification. The basic argument is there...If any component of U were large then q would be close to x. Therefore, there is a C and a distance from x such that if any component of U is greater than C then q would lie inside this bounded segment to the future of x. If every component of U was less than or equal C then q would be inside a compact segment (a finite distance in the future of x, given by a q determined by the U's > C?) because the image of a continuous map from a compact space is also compact. Not sure how the fact that the matrices U are symmetric and have non-negative (or non-positive trace depnding on convention) come into the argument though...need to think about it some more.
 


When the trace is non-negative the point q lies to the future of x, whereas when it is negative q lies to the past of x...this may mean that the map from the space of all symmetric matrices to q is discontinuous if you did not restrict the trace to be non-positive and a compactification would't follow.
 
So for the map to q to be continuous we require that the matrices have non-negative trace - that just imposes what space we need to consider - which us just a simple partition of 6-dimensional Euclidean space. This space has a norm and so is a metric space, making it Hausdorff, and locally compact - this together with the space being non-compact are the necassary and sufficient conditions for the Alexandroff extention to be a compactification. The continuous map q then maps this compact space onto a compact segment of a geodesic with the point at infinity mapped to x.
 

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