Open Relative to X: Proving T is Open

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The discussion focuses on proving that a set T is open relative to a set X, emphasizing the conditions under which this holds true. It outlines the process of demonstrating this by considering cases where X is closed, open, or neither, and highlights the importance of finding a delta ball within T. The conversation also addresses the reverse direction of the proof, clarifying that if T can be expressed as the intersection of an open set U and X, then T is open relative to X. Participants share insights on how to approach the proof and refine their understanding of the concepts involved. Overall, the exchange illustrates the collaborative effort to solve a complex mathematical problem.
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Homework Statement


T is open relative to X iff for any p \in S there exists \delta > 0 such that B(p,\delta )\capX is \subset T


Homework Equations


T is open relative to X provided there exists an open subset U of R^n such that T = U\capX


The Attempt at a Solution


Okay, so, going the forward ("if") direction, I think I'm able to classify this problem into one of three major subsets: X is closed, open, or neither. So, dealing with X being closed, I so far have:

1. Pick p in T
2. By hypothesis, produce U, an open subset of R^n s.t. T = U\capX
3. For all points qn in U, let tau= min{|qn - p|}
4.
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I believe that the final step will involve producing a delta ball within T, but I dn't know how to go about finding the correct delta. As well, if what I have so far is correct, then I think i'll have to end up letting delta be the minimum of tau and some other variable that I'll call beta for right now; so, how do I find the right beta?

Does anyone have any ideas for the reverse ("only if") direction?

Thanks guys!
 
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I don't see why you would need to think about whether X is open or closed or neither.

If there exist an open subset U of R^n such that T = U\cap X, then, since U is open, there exist a ball B(p,\delta)\subset U and so B(p, \delta)\cap X is a subset of T. That's it.
 
Conceptually, yes, I see what you are talking about. Can you give me another hint to push me along the path of proving it?

Thanks for your help thus far
 
Haha, well, during the five minutes after I wanted to ask you to give me a hint, I think i pretty much got it figured out...

Forward direction: S is open relative to D if for any point p in S there exists delta >0 s.t. B(p,delta) intersect D is a subset of S

1. Since S is open relative to D, produce U, a subset of R^n, s.t. S = U intersect D
2. B/c U is open, for any point p in U, we can produce delta >0 s.t. B(p,delta) is a subset of U.
3. Pick a point p in U intersect D
4. Then, B(p,delta) is a subset of U intersect D, which is S

Let me know if I forgot any details!
 
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